chocolate malt drink + hops?

[chrig]

I've got quite a quantity of this stuff in the cupboard having found it cheap at b&m, around £1.50 / kg IIRC. once i had got home and give the kids a drink each I noticed it tasted rather malty.. turns out to be 44% malt extract



So i'm wondering if a couple of Kg with "some hops" and 500g of dark malt extract might make a reasonable chocolate stout..... having ALL of my demijohns currently empty i'm almost willing to try anything at the moment :lol:

 

[Algernon]

Got to be worth a punt for a single DJ, but I wouldn't go bigger than that. Not sure what effect the milk solids would have on it, as well as the other additives.
I do love a good experiment though, especially when someone else is doing it ;-)
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[chrig]

A quick re-boot of this thread before I go try it... Eventually

I've got 12g of ' fuggles golding' which I assume is a mix of both pellets. Would that be enough for a 1 gallon brew?

 

[graysalchemy]

Are you just going to dry hop it? as you wont extract any AA with out boiling with wort for an hour.

I think you will end up with a sweet alcoholic chocolaty drink with some hop aroma at best :sick: :sick:

Not my idea of a drink but hey each to their own.

 

[chrig]

I was going to boil the hops. And dry hop I i buy a large pack of hops in the new year.

Its gone out of date so the wife won't let the kids have it, and it'll take years to get through it whilst she is out of the house.

So for the cost of the hops and some beer kit yeast it seems worth a try

 

[graysalchemy]

Nothing gained nothing lost but you do need wort to extract the Alpha Acids so just boing up in water won't work and I don't know if boiling in that powder will work or not.

 

[rpt]

Its gone out of date so the wife won't let the kids have it, and it'll take years to get through it whilst she is out of the house.

Point out to her that it's a best before date and not a use by date. It won't do anyone any harm - no wonder we throw away so much food in this country.

 

[chrig]

Best case is that some of the milk solids drop out during the boil.

As for the best before dates I don't stick by them at all, but she has a whole host of ocd's around it. I usually don't tell her but she found these.

 

[RobWalker]

Gotta be worth a bash. Just filter it through a coffee filter or something at some point - that should remove a lot of the solids.

 

[chrig]

5L of water is coming up to boil soonish. Hops in the hop bag or not? They tend to float and are quite 'non - permiable' (there must be a word for that?)

 

[chrig]

i chucked a full kg un yo he pan thinking 'its only 400g of malt'

Pre boil reading of 1.100. Lots of solids I assume? The 'solids' must bump it up as well

 

[chrig]

boil finished and cooled in the sink. It only half filled the dj so i topped up with water.

Gravity reading of 1.080 and the yeast pitched.

 

[Slid]

Top marks for pushing the boat out on this one. :thumb:

bacchus only knows what the concoction might taste like, but I'm curious as well.

Since the sugar in milk is lactose and famously unfermentable and the protein stuff that makes cheese presumably is too, it could be, er, interesting. Very sympathetic to the idea of straining out protein solids at some stage. Maybe don't try to make cheese out of them though.

 

[chrig]

It fermented down to about 1.020 and stopped, so I crash cooled for a couple of weeks and racked it in to a 1.75L coke bottle with some headroom which I squeezed out.

Lid is on firm and its in the warm whilst being checked most days, looks to be fermenting or co2 is dropping out of suspension.

I think it'll stay there for a long time before risking bottling, I tried to drink the sample. Grim.

 

[RobWalker]

:lol:

 

[graysalchemy]

Oh dear

Though there is still time for it come good and be the best 'beer' ever. :whistle: :whistle:

 

[chrig]

Oh yes, there is plenty of time for that... i'm sure it'll turn out stunning after 10 years in the bottle.

And the pictures at last!!




The electric ring looks almost gaslike... sadly not!



I cooled it in the kitchen sink and filtered out the hops some how, not quite sure how now though, maybe i just left a bit in the bottom of the pan .

And then the explosive day after a couple of days rappid ferment:






Couple of days later i racked it off the sediment.


a week or two crash coling, Another massive sediment drop.


Bottled for "bulk" storage :lol:

 

[rodwha]

There's a guy here in the US that had done that same thing twice I believe. His first try, I believe, was a failure, but he tried it again with some changes. I didn't follow it too closely though.

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/i-am-cu ... ne-294176/

 

[rodwha]

Here's another I found:

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f37/more-ov ... se-163046/

 

[chrig]

I've just drank my first bottle of goose island IPA which may have squiffed my taste buds a little, but this had been fermenting away in its coke bottle for a while and was nicely pressurised.. So I had a little taste and it was quite pleasant!

pushed the air out one more as its still very sweet and will drop a Sterile hydrometer in at some point to see how its going, but at this rate it'll be quite acceptable by Christmas... 2018