Chevallier malt

[Donegal john]

Thanks guys. Some food for thought here.
I will have to do a long low mash on this one it seems
Not sure if American hops would do it justice to be honest so I have some progress in the freezer and I may get some ekg as suggested.
Was going to brew tomorrow but I might as well hold off and get some more research done on this malt.

 

[Donegal john]

Has anyone the 1864 Lovibond xb recipe to hand ?

 

[Sadfield]

 

[Donegal john]

Think I need to order some ekg.
Many thanks sadfield.

 

[Donegal john]

Think I need to order some ekg.
Many thanks sadfield.

 

[MrRook]

In the Mar/Apr 2018 issue of Zymurgy I did an "online extra" about recreating 1800s British ale. I brewed an IPA and a porter for it. In the porter I used maris otter, brown malt, and black patent. If I had been able to source chevelier I would have definitely used it instead.

 

[Donegal john]

In the Mar/Apr 2018 issue of Zymurgy I did an "online extra" about recreating 1800s British ale. I brewed an IPA and a porter for it. In the porter I used maris otter, brown malt, and black patent. If I had been able to source chevelier I would have definitely used it instead.

I was waiting on a curved ball coming.
I have plenty to allow me to do both.
So you don’t think it will be lost then in the porter ?

 

[An Ankoù]

Thanks guys. Some food for thought here.
I will have to do a long low mash on this one it seems
Not sure if American hops would do it justice to be honest so I have some progress in the freezer and I may get some ekg as suggested.
Was going to brew tomorrow but I might as well hold off and get some more research done on this malt.

The best research is done in the mash tun.
I've been intending to do a Lovibond XB with all fuggles. Looks like a plan.

 

[Donegal john]

The best research is done in the mash tun.
I've been intending to do a Lovibond XB with all fuggles. Looks like a plan.

I have 100g progress and 50g fuggles.

 

[Sadfield]

I was waiting on a curved ball coming.
I have plenty to allow me to do both.
So you don’t think it will be lost then in the porter ?

Just to clarify. I've no issue with using it in a porter, and fully intend to do so. If you've enough for both, I can't imagine it getting lost in a porter. If you only had enough for one brew, I wouldn't have missed out on the opportunity to use it in a pale.

 

[Donegal john]

Just to clarify. I've no issue with using it in a porter, and fully intend to do so. If you've enough for both, I can't imagine it getting lost in a porter. If you only had enough for one brew, I wouldn't have missed out on the opportunity to use it in a pale.

I understand where your coming from and I have 25kg so no issues there. I want to get the best out of it as I have plenty of pale ale malt to do other brews. Including the porter. I don’t want the Chevallier to go into a beer that would work just as good with pale malt especially when I got the pale free.

 

[MrRook]

I was waiting on a curved ball coming.
I have plenty to allow me to do both.
So you don’t think it will be lost then in the porter ?

I can't really say until I actually brew with it, but it should do well in it. The main reason I would have used it was that it was THE base malt used in the early 1880s (from around 1820 from what I've read).

 

[Donegal john]

I can't really say until I actually brew with it, but it should do well in it. The main reason I would have used it was that it was THE base malt used in the early 1880s (from around 1820 from what I've read).

Yeah I read the same. It was the go to for that era but fell out of favour for better preforming malts and was revived from a handful of seeds. Sierra Nevada was one of a few breweries to take it onboard and revive it. It’s an intriguing base malt.

 

[Sadfield]

A local brewer to me, Shane Swindells of Cheshire Brewhouse in Congleton, used some of the first batch in 2014. He did a collaboration brew with Crisp Malting, an IPA called Govinda, and also uses it in a 1889 Heritage Porter called Gibraltar, both were very good.

 

[Big_Eight]

Goldings into triple figure IBUs, preferably East Kent Goldings.

I've had this brewed by a number of brewers and it's beautiful in its simplicity.

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The 1864 Lovibond XB from that book, brewed with Chevallier is amazing. Also a simple recipe, but so, so good.

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Going to have to bookmark both of those in my book. Great thread thanks @Donegal john for starting it. Good luck on your journey using Chevallier Malt.

 

[Andrew Booth]

What book is that with the Tetleys recipe please?

 

[Donegal john]

What book is that with the Tetleys recipe please?

https://barclayperkins.blogspot.com/2020/01/the-home-brewers-guide-to-vintage-beer.html?m=1

 

[MrRook]

https://barclayperkins.blogspot.com/2020/01/the-home-brewers-guide-to-vintage-beer.html?m=1

I've got this book: it was one of the few I kept after drastically having to downsize for our move last year.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

I’m going to make my next Exmoor Gold with 80% MO and 20% Chevallier, how does the PPG of Chevallier compare to MO? Thanks

 

[The Baron]

Hi CC
36.3 PPG according to Brewers Friend