Can Glycerine be added later on?

[johnc86]

Just looking at the original Wiurzells orange wine recipe. I have everything I need to start this except for the Glycerine :? . Could this be added at another point or does it need to be present from the off? If it is necessary from the beginning can it be bought anywhere other than a homebrew shop? I.e. does it have other uses and therefore is it available in a supermarket??

Secondly Wurzell lists the following as the ingredients:

1 litre carton Del Monte 100% pure orange juice.
1 litre carton Tesco’s pure pressed white grape juice.
1½ lb sugar.
1 tsp nutrient
G.P. yeast
½ tsp tannin
1 tsp Pectic Enzyme
1 tsp glycerine
Water to 1 galon

He than instructs to stir ALL the ingredients into cold water.......

Does he mean the pectic enzyme? I would have thought this would be added at the end? I dont have any experience making wine so sorry if these are stupid questions.

Cheers.

 

[johnc86]

Also, I have some chanpagne yeast. Its either this or some 'Young's Died active yeast'. Not sure which would be best :/.

 

[astraman1]

you can get it from the supermarket go to the cake making stuff

put the pectic enzyme in at the start mix all the dry stuff into your sugar that way you get no lumps

couldnt tell you what it will do adding it later but the glycerine gives it a better mouth feel and you can use the youngs gp yeast

 

[Moley]

I've made it with and without glycerine, and it does make a difference.
However, you can add it at any time up to and including bottling.

The pectolase goes in from the start.
If you didn't have any you could always add double the quantity later on.

Use either yeast.


By the way, you can get a little bottle of glycerine from the supermarket home baking aisle which should be around 70p and good for 7 gallons, but if you end up making wine in volume, the glycerine is much cheaper from Boot's.

 

[johnc86]

Cheers Moley.

 

[streamer13]

Apart from the mouth feel does the glycerine sweeten the wine. I just tasted it one day and realised it was very sweet. Last wurz I made I'm sorry to say got mixed up with other wines I was making because I don't like it too sweet and I blended them while they were still fermenting to get them all to dryness as one of them was far too sugary at the offset (on old JJ Berrie recipe I have since learned to alter).
I don't know if maybe the sweetness of the glycerine was coming through or if maybe it ferments out. What is glycerine? suppose I'll have to Google it.
They were all about a year in the making and for someone who didn't like white wine I ended up hooked on the stuff and scoffed the lot in less than a month.
I was left with half a bottle of white wine last week after a visit from my brother and I had bought it for his wife as we were both on the red wine. Next day finishing it off was quite a shock as it was total **** compared to the country wine and wurz.
This years supply are well labeled and not too sugary. Don't think they will get to a year old.

 

[Moley]

Apart from the mouth feel does the glycerine sweeten the wine?

No, we're talking about 1 tsp to 1 gallon, 5ml to 5 litres, so it's going to have bugger-all effect on sweetness.

Touch your finger on the rim of the bottle and dab it on your tongue, it's actually quite ‘hot’ and not particularly pleasant, but not that sweet.

I was left with half a bottle of white wine last week after a visit from my brother and I had bought it for his wife as we were both on the red wine. Next day finishing it off was quite a shock as it was total **** compared to the country wine and wurz.

:lol: I know exactly what you mean.

I also find the same thing with many commercial beers,

 

[Barkie]

I was left with half a bottle of white wine last week after a visit from my brother and I had bought it for his wife as we were both on the red wine. Next day finishing it off was quite a shock as it was total **** compared to the country wine and wurz.

I'm encouraged. There are some blummin' poor excuses trying to pass off as wine out there.

Glycerin B.P (Glycerol) label says it is taken with water as a cough and sore throat remedy and can help dry skin when rubbed on! A Boots 200ml bottle was £1.39.

I used Young's super yeast compound and didn't get excessive foaming.

 

[johnc86]

I forgot to add the tannin . Is it important or simply aesthetic? Can it be added now?

 

[Moley]

Don't add the powdered stuff now, if you've got any head space to top up you could add a mug of well-stewed strong black tea.

I wouldn't worry about it too much though. :thumb: