Camra calls time on sexist names at Great British beer festival

[Billy No Mates]

I'm at the GBBF now and I've just bought a half of ******** IPA.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I dont see why they have to call beer sexist, crude, etc names anyway. If the beer is good

Having read about "dirty *******" and "soiled Johnnie's" I kind of agree but the likes of "Dizzy blond" have been around a long time and as Clint said above the women bartender wasnt offended seeing the name on the bar so I guess the majority of women wouldnt.

 

[Clint]

Would it be deemed offensive if you had a beer called...level headed brunette...?
It's all complete tripe...I really can't stand that Lush shop full of over smelly bath stuff ...so I don't go in there. You can smell it yards away...perhaps I should complain and make them keep their doors shut.

 

[Billy No Mates]

Assuming offence on someone else's behalf must be the ultimate in patronisation. Shame on CAMRA.

And I remember booze cruises to Calais where we bought cheap plonk in an outlet called Eastenders and their own brand was called Dogs Boll**ks.

The RSPCA didn't try to patronise the pooches and get it banned (probably because French dogs all had rabies then), but I bet they would now.

By the way, I added my own asterisks this time.

 

[GerritT]

the women bartender wasnt offended seeing the name on the bar so I guess the majority of women wouldnt.

That one bartender was not the official spokesperson of all women, I guess.

But it's saddening that people do not possess the creativity to name their beers without needing to be intentionally sexist or otherwise discriminatory.
Never order Black and Tan in Ireland, for example.

 

[DavidDetroit]

"Founder's Scotch ale" is a good name, possible opening for a conversation. Where as I'm not seeing Dirty ******* doing that.
This morning I bottled #42. Meaning that there were 41 before. I'm not creative. But neither are some professional brewers.

A brewery labeling their styles numerically would be a good to great gimmick. They'd only go up to eight or whatever but that's even better . Put it on a plain white label in Times New Roman font. Ironically, it would stand out amongst the crazy labels that I can't read.

 

[Ajhutch]

A brewery labeling their styles numerically would be a good to great gimmick.

Brew By Numbers in London does exactly that. I think they do two two digit numbers, one for style and one for version/variation. Eg 01:02 might be pale ale with citra and 01:03 pale ale with cascade.

 

[DavidDetroit]

I dont see why they have to call beer sexist, crude, etc names anyway. If the beer is good, it should speak for itself .

I don't take those places that do it seriously. I'm obviously not their target market.

 

[Horners]

Having read about "dirty *******" and "soiled Johnnie's" I kind of agree but the likes of "Dizzy blond" have been around a long time and as Clint said above the women bartender wasnt offended seeing the name on the bar so I guess the majority of women wouldnt.

Just to be clear - "Soiled Johnnies" I made up on the spot both as a satirical swipe at some of the actual names encountered at 90s beer fairs and also to execute the wind-up on the lady sent for the beers. How we laughed.

 

[DavidDetroit]

Brew By Numbers in London does exactly that. I think they do two two digit numbers, one for style and one for version/variation. Eg 01:02 might be pale ale with citra and 01:03 pale ale with cascade.

That's nice. When I have one of my "original ideas," the thought that it's probably not comes to mind. I haven't seen anything like that over here, but a Google search would probably say there is at least one.

 

[Gerryjo]

A brewery labeling their styles numerically would be a good to great gimmick. They'd only go up to eight or whatever but that's even better . Put it on a plain white label in Times New Roman font. Ironically, it would stand out amongst the crazy labels that I can't read.

We have a local here which does although far from numerical order and don't really know what the numbers are in relation to.

 

[MyQul]

Brew By Numbers in London does exactly that. I think they do two two digit numbers, one for style and one for version/variation. Eg 01:02 might be pale ale with citra and 01:03 pale ale with cascade.

They've opened a new tap house in Peckham this summer

https://www.facebook.com/bbnopeckham/

 

[Alex.mc]

One of the women mentioned in the article, Laura is a friend of mine. She has worked tirelessly for CAMRA, and has worked the GBBF for over 10 years as a volunteer. Some of the crap she and other women had to put up with in the early days beggars belief, and is frankly shocking. Times have changed though and things moved on, and beer is in a much better place than it was without a doubt.
Regarding the offence at other peoples offence... well you'll never really pin down a outlook that suits everybody, that's the nature of personal choice and perception.
However......... there are some pretty obvious unacceptable behaviours in public, which just because they "did it fine in the 1930's" (or whichever era you choose) doesn't make it acceptable now. A lot of people were supporters of Oswald Moseley "back in the day", but you'd be hard pressed to publicly support Nazi Ideology and gassing Jews and get away without getting a battering for very long now.
Extreme example you might say, but I'm illustrating that just because one person has a view, doesn't mean it's not offensive.
CAMRA moves slowly, but this is a good move. It's dumbf*ckery of the highest order to ignore the major proportion of half the population. Beer as a whole can do without being seen as an enclave of mysogynist old gits.
Regarding Beer names, well the world's your Oyster there isn't it? If you can't name a beer in a witty, amusing, or clever way without resorting to dire old school memes or cliches... well then that's just exposing a lack of imagination and intelligence.

 

[Ajhutch]

They've opened a new tap house in Peckham this summer

https://www.facebook.com/bbnopeckham/

I’ve already been! Were you the bloke with the plaited beard?

 

[MyQul]

I’ve already been! Were you the bloke with the plaited beard?

Ha! Ha! No.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

That one bartender was not the official spokesperson of all women, I guess.

You are right so i asked our lass and she said its a load of bollocks so its official

 

[An Ankoù]

Assuming offence on someone else's behalf must be the ultimate in patronisation. Shame on CAMRA.

And I remember booze cruises to Calais where we bought cheap plonk in an outlet called Eastenders and their own brand was called Dogs Boll**ks.

The RSPCA didn't try to patronise the pooches and get it banned (probably because French dogs all had rabies then), but I bet they would now.

By the way, I added my own asterisks this time.

Dogs' Bolllocks was a Wytchwood beer and I've got the tee-shirt to prove it. I wonder if they still make it. Wasn't a bad pint.
The last case of rabies in France in humans was in 1921. It's not dogs you have to worry about, but bats.
Over here, we have a major brand called Kekette, which is the same as Quéquette- willy or todger! On their packaging they proudly boast "un petit coup de Kekette" which could mean "a nice drop of Kekette (beer)" or, and it's hard to translate, "a tasteful little shafting" or "a quick knee trembler" or something like that. Poland has the best of it with F*** Baby (my asterisks). This doesn't seem to be taken as laddish, as the girls enjoy it just as much. It's just a beer thing/

 

[GerritT]

My driving instructor told me (among other things): "Being right or having the right of way won't stop you sometimes from being a ****."

 

[The Baron]

Its been going on for years and some of the names I find offensive and done just for the shock factor. I am no prude and find things like Dizzy Blonde funny rather than offensive but and this a real old one who ever named a beer The Bishops Finger(also known as a Nuns Comforter I believe in the area it is brewed in) so its not new but some breweries are going too far and touching on pornographic

 

[DavidDetroit]

We have a local here which does although far from numerical order and don't really know what the numbers are in relation to.

That's a sturdy hydrometer container in the link.