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I am going to start my first ever beer kit, a woodfordes wherry. I have the basic equipment and plan on putting it in a Wilkos Pressure barrel. The question is when do I add the c02 to the barrel?

Do I add after tipping the beer into the pressure barrel or after it has been in pressure barrel 2 weeks?

I'm a bit unsure!

Thanks
 
Yes why not??

the man at the home brew shop said to give the s30 a one second burst then unscrew it. Just unsure as to when I should do it, don't want my beer going off as I will be drinking it over about 3 months....
 
Are you aware that you should add some sugar to the barrel with the beer so that it ferments just a little more & creates some more CO2, pressurising itself? I think it's about 80g per 40 pints.

If so, then you only need to add CO2 when it's clear that there starts to be low pressure in the barrel; it's not really a function of time. The point when to add CO2 is normally fairly obvious as it starts coming slower out of the tap; most quote 2/3rds to 1/2 the barrel drunk. Do your best to avoid the "glug", i.e. negative pressure inside the barrel draws air in through the tap. The oxygen in any air drawn in could ruin your beer in just a few days.
 
Yes I'm aware about adding sugar to the barrel. Do I just chuck the sugar in or dissolve in some water?

It says on the box half a teaspoon per pint upto a maximum of 100g for 40 pints, to save messing around is sounds better to just throw 100g in the pressure barrel?.
 
I still don't understand why if you have a barrel with an S30 valve why you'd need a secondary ferment and not just use the cylinder. Is this a throwback to when barrels only had a plain cap?
 
Dissolving the sugar in boiling water will kill nasties. But I don't think I ever did this; I just threw the sugar in.

Force pressurising a plastic keg with a Hambleton Bard type CO2 cylinder would be a pain in the neck, and expensive.

When you inject CO2, you are not injecting it into the beer; the beer slowly absorbs it from the high pressure layer of CO2 sitting above it. It could take weeks to get carbonation from the low pressures that plastic kegs allow.

Technically you could carbonate in a plastic keg by adding CO2, but here's why nobody does.... 40 pints of liquid absorbs a lot of CO2. I think most people choose to use sugar because it's almost free. Also, the CO2 absorbs quite quickly, so you'd get bored having to inject so regularly (needed to maintain the head pressure). You'd probably lose quite a lot of CO2 through the keg release valve also, as it would be quite difficult to know when to stop adding CO2, and because you'd need to be quite close to release pressure, you are sure to lose a fair pecentage of injected CO2. So people just add sugar for initial carbonation, and use the CO2 bottle when the pressure starts to drop.

Force carbonation is possible in stainless steel Cornie kegs. I have Cornie kegs and force carbonate just like you say, no sugar needed. But there is a big difference as I bought a large 5kg cylinder, so the CO2 is relatively cheap. I also have a pressure regulator that adds more CO2 as needed. The Cornie takes much higher pressure, so it's much easier to force the CO2 in, taking only a few days. If you want to force carbonate, you need something like a Cornie.
 
I always pressurise my barrel from an S-30 now. The pressure relief valve is limited to about 10 PSI which is just perfect for me as I only want enough CO2 for dispensing and I haven't noticed any difference myself.
At £5 for a refill which last many months, I prefer this to adding sugar. It also means my brews are ready for consumption almost immediately.
 
It depends on what you class as flat.

This is the condition out of the barrel

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I'm going to add 100g priming sugar initially then add the s30 c02 as and when needed

Thanks for your helpful replies

:cheers:
 
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