jeg3
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Cheaper than three quid per kilo from the malt miller! Good call!
Butty Bach ESB
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MJ Liberty Bell, it's my go-to yeast now for British ales and helps bring out the Bramling Cross flavour in this brew.
Galena
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I found this on another forum to the same question, not saying what is and what isn't just repostingDoes flaked maize = Corn Flakes?
BTW, darrellm, kudos to your stout recipe, had a taster the other night, coming along great!
"Absolutely not!!!
Corn Flakes (as in the cereal) are a processed food product that contains corn. Flaked maize (or any grain for that matter) is the raw grain that has been passed through rollers at a high temp. The two products do not even resemble each other. Flaked maize resembles oatmeal if anything.
Wikipedia lists Corn Flakes ingredients as:
* Milled Corn, Sugar, Malt flavoring, High fructose corn syrup, Salt, Iron, Niacinamide, Sodium ascorbate and ascorbic acid (vitamin C), Pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), Riboflavin (vitamin B2), Thiamin hydrochloride (vitamin B1), Vitamin A palmitate, Folic acid, Vitamin B12, Vitamin D, Vitamin B
There is no such thing as non gelatinized flaked maize. The rolling of the grain creates friction and heat, thus gelatizining it. The point of buying flaked grains is that you don't have to do a special mash to gelatinize the starches."
I am sure I cultured the butty batch yeast for an ESB years ago!!!
I did during lockdown #1 and its a cracking yeast. Not very characterful, but it tastes very 'pub like', ferments like a train and drops clear very quickly.
I may have misremembered the Lidl corn flakes ingredients, but there is definitely no additives that would worry me, just corn, barley malt extract and a small amount of salt. I guess it's up to you if you think that would effect things in your brew. Anyway, here are the ingredients;
Galena
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Did you get it from a bottle?
I heroically drank four bottles, just to make sure I had enough source cells.
Stepped up really well.
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I can well see that Kellogg's Corn Flakes are going to have more additives etc, but for the cheap ones, there's nothing much there except salt, so I'm certainly prepared to give those a try if other posters have used them successfully.
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Thank you
There a recipe and kit for butty bach from malt Miller here that I'm planning
Butty Bach Clone | The Malt Miller
And perhaps no coincidence I'm also planning an ESB clone but swapping the LALLEMAND London ESB Yeast after a disastrous experience for WLP002 - my first use of liquid yeast (do need a starter...?.)
https://www.themaltmiller.co.uk/?s=Esb&search_id=1&post_type=product
On the canals a Butty is an unpowered boat pull along with you powered boat.
Butty Bach Clone | The Malt Miller
And perhaps no coincidence I'm also planning an ESB clone but swapping the LALLEMAND London ESB Yeast after a disastrous experience for WLP002 - my first use of liquid yeast (do need a starter...?.)
https://www.themaltmiller.co.uk/?s=Esb&search_id=1&post_type=product
On the canals a Butty is an unpowered boat pull along with you powered boat.
In Wales, Butty is a friend or mate, Bach is little.
When I was a kid on holiday in Wales the farmer called me Willie Bach. Lovely words.
Willie bach sounds like a rather unfortunate personal comment!
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I should have reported back sooner, but I'm afraid my batch of this was a complete failure. I don't know whether to blame the midsummer ambient temperature, or the yeast, or the Lidl corn flakes, or a combination of the three, but although I bottled it, it never tasted good or cleared properly, and in the end it went down the drain.
