Burton Ale / IPA and bottle-conditioning

[peebee]

@terrym : I reckon only the name fell into disuse, a lot of my favourite beers get flagged as "Burton Ale" (1845, Old Perculier, ... Owd Rodger) hence I'm keen on the "style".

 

[AdeDunn]

@terrym : I reckon only the name fell into disuse, a lot of my favourite beers get flagged as "Burton Ale" (1845, Old Perculier, ... Owd Rodger) hence I'm keen on the "style".

Probably thanks to most of the best known B-O-T breweries getting swallowed up by the faceless Internationals. That said, in my younger years I worked in a Bass pub, and to be quite honest couldn't stand Bass (Cask) or Worthingtons (Keg).... They were the John Smiths and Boddingtons of the time! They may have been better in the 40s and 50s, but by the 90s they were horrid.... The pub I worked in also sold one called Yarnfield Ale, which the customers fell for hook, line and sinker... Why? Because it was cask Worthingtons rather than keg, with a different badge on it. It was still rank... lol

I do however like Old Peculier.

 

[peebee]

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I've only made the 1864 Lovibond XB recipe. Firstly because it didn't involve sugars and caramel, secondly because it was one of the lower IBUs of the pale ales. 83 in fact but the finished brew was no more bitter than the Greg Hughes English IPA recipes which is in the 60s.
I was surprised how good the finished beer was for such a simple recipe. Just pale malt and goldings hops.

T'was my reasoning for going with Ushers 60/- too. 60ish IBU after aging (from 80).

Used Chevallier malt which proved dramatically different. Still too dark (@AdeDunn ) but can't get "white malt" and MO didn't appear until 1970s.

 

[terrym]

@terrym : I reckon only the name fell into disuse, a lot of my favourite beers get flagged as "Burton Ale" (1845, Old Perculier, ... Owd Rodger) hence I'm keen on the "style".

Time for a taste test perhaps on beers I can get hold of. 1845 (not tried) vs. 1698 (have tried) which are similar gravities although 1698 is billed, not surprisingly, as a Kentish Ale.

That said, in my younger years I worked in a Bass pub, and to be quite honest couldn't stand Bass (Cask) or Worthingtons (Keg).... They were the John Smiths and Boddingtons of the time! They may have been better in the 40s and 50s, but by the 90s they were horrid.... The pub I worked in also sold one called Yarnfield Ale, which the customers fell for hook, line and sinker... Why? Because it was cask Worthingtons rather than keg, with a different badge on it. It was still rank... lol.

I used to drink draught Bass in the 60s and early 70s and it was an OK drink, although after 2 pints it gave me a headache! Worthington cask bitter, also available at the time was a thin watery beer if I remember and one to be avoided. And I have always avoided drinking keg ales. Not drunk Bass for years, although having been brewed out of Burton at various locations since the Bass brewery stopped doing it, I understand it is now brewed by Marstons under contract perhaps in the Burton Union system that Bass themselves used to use.

 

[foxbat]

Hey you midlanders keep yer hands off Old Peculier. Burton Ale my eye We Yorkshiremen have our own style and it is by definition the best in t'world

 

[Druncan]

https://www.themaltmiller.co.uk/myrecipe_dc/recview.php?rid=2462
This sounds like the Burton ale I used to drink in the Newcastle Dog and Parrot in the 1980's

 

[terrym]

https://www.themaltmiller.co.uk/myrecipe_dc/recview.php?rid=2462
This sounds like the Burton ale I used to drink in the Newcastle Dog and Parrot in the 1980's

I have the David Line book upon which the recipe is based and there's other stuff in there as well including barley syrup, brown sugar, molasses and saccharin tablets. If anyone is interested in this recipe PM me but bear in mind that this book was written nearly 35 years ago.

 

[peebee]

Hey you midlanders keep yer hands off Old Peculier. Burton Ale my eye We Yorkshiremen have our own style and it is by definition the best in t'world

Have I just been called English?

I think it has been a good time since "Burton Ale" had any connection to the town. (200 years?).

 

[AdeDunn]

Hey you midlanders keep yer hands off Old Peculier. Burton Ale my eye We Yorkshiremen have our own style and it is by definition the best in t'world

I may come from the Midlands, but I most certainly am not a fan of the beer from here.... Banks's, Bass, Worthingtons.... All tastes the same to me to be honest, horrid. lol

As to the best beer coming from Yorkshire... Ha ha ha ha ha.... London, and always has, starting back when the London breweries were churning out porter whilst the rest of the country were sending folks down there to learn how to brew it... That said, yeah, I definitely like Old Peculier.... Not a huge fan of 1845 though, too much alcohol burn in it. Really really not a fan of Old Tom.... My Crivens beats them all though. :p