Richie_asg1
Junior Member
Yes I've never heard of them either!
But I was browsing into the ingredients of tonic water as I do have a soda stream I wondered if it was possible to make the syrup concentrate myself.
Then this happened-
Most people know that quinine is the main flavouring of tonic water, but using the Cinchona bark to brew your own is risky because you don't know what concentration you are making. Effects of overdose are nausea, vomiting, vertigo, incurable tinnitus, heart arrhythmia and...death.
Using the rough chopped bark is safer as there is less extracted, erring on the smallest quantity recipe you can find safer still, and so far the best method I have seen is to replace at least half of it by weight with another bittering bark instead.
So how much do you really need in a tonic water?
I found this syrup produced for sodastreams that contains the mysterious Brown rice syrup and Monk Fruit Juice.
https://www.lakeland.co.uk/content/documents/62059_label_1.pdf
It seems it does have quinine in there at 0.01%, but not sure if that is in the finished syrup or the made up drink, and am inclined to think it is the concentrate due to no mention of "when diluted to...")
With that in mind I think I will abandon the idea of quinine as I'm not suffering from malaria and just use the other ingredients.
Turns out that Monk Fruit Juice is a sweetener - possibly not fermentable as it contains zero calories, and brown rice syrup is 3 versions of glucose - so it is. (maltotriose (52%), maltose (45%), and glucose (3%))
I thought that both these ingredients may be useful in wine or beer and have never heard of them before.
Anybody else used them before or even heard of them?
But I was browsing into the ingredients of tonic water as I do have a soda stream I wondered if it was possible to make the syrup concentrate myself.
Then this happened-
Most people know that quinine is the main flavouring of tonic water, but using the Cinchona bark to brew your own is risky because you don't know what concentration you are making. Effects of overdose are nausea, vomiting, vertigo, incurable tinnitus, heart arrhythmia and...death.
Using the rough chopped bark is safer as there is less extracted, erring on the smallest quantity recipe you can find safer still, and so far the best method I have seen is to replace at least half of it by weight with another bittering bark instead.
So how much do you really need in a tonic water?
I found this syrup produced for sodastreams that contains the mysterious Brown rice syrup and Monk Fruit Juice.
https://www.lakeland.co.uk/content/documents/62059_label_1.pdf
It seems it does have quinine in there at 0.01%, but not sure if that is in the finished syrup or the made up drink, and am inclined to think it is the concentrate due to no mention of "when diluted to...")
With that in mind I think I will abandon the idea of quinine as I'm not suffering from malaria and just use the other ingredients.
Turns out that Monk Fruit Juice is a sweetener - possibly not fermentable as it contains zero calories, and brown rice syrup is 3 versions of glucose - so it is. (maltotriose (52%), maltose (45%), and glucose (3%))
I thought that both these ingredients may be useful in wine or beer and have never heard of them before.
Anybody else used them before or even heard of them?