Britons cut meat-eating by 17% [Poll]

[JohnB]

Don't know much about the chicken job, but from a beef point of view I am trying to make up the 17% shortfall all on my own, it seems: "Porterhouse steak 3 times a day for my board," and I snack on things like cottage pie and steak and kidney pudding in the sort-of peckish periods in between main meals.

What I would also say though is that my beef is walking around in a grass field two miles up the road (it isn't coming from Argentina), my lamb is walking around in a grass field about 5 miles away (it isn't coming from New Zealand or Australia), my pork comes from a farm 10 miles away where they are all outside enjoying the sunshine/rain/fog (until the 'Fateful Day' arrives). The enormous cost to the planet comes from shipping stuff thousands of miles; of processing food until it looks and tastes like the plastic that it is wrapped in, then draggin' it up and down the country in trucks until its travel-sick, than it is to do with the eating of good food.

I suppose if you live in the middle of a town or city it is difficult and I am being an arris because some unfortunate people are stuck with what the supermarkets "Want" you to eat, rather than being given the choice of eating what "You" want to eat. And I suppose I am lucky because I can see my dinner walking around happy in a field until its 'Fateful Day' arrives, then I can go to my local butcher and take it off the shelf.

BUT ... for all the woke brigade out there - I for one am going to spend my money on exactly the sort of food I want to eat and "Refuse" to be told what I should or shouldn't do with my money. If I want steak, I'll eat steak; and if I want a vegetarian meal (which I often do!) I'll eat a vegetarian meal. This is all social engineering gone absolutely mad!

 

[Chippy_Tea]

BUT ... for all the woke brigade out there - I for one am going to spend my money on exactly the sort of food I want to eat and "Refuse" to be told what I should or shouldn't do with my money. If I want steak, I'll eat steak; and if I want a vegetarian meal (which I often do!) I'll eat a vegetarian meal. This is all social engineering gone absolutely mad!

I don't think anyone is telling anyone else what to eat or not eat it says in the OP -

The amount of meat consumed in the UK each day has fallen by almost a fifth over the last decade, according to a new study.

I posted the thread as i was unaware such a huge number of people have like me lowered their consumption of red meat over the last few years.

 

[dad_of_jon]

Whilst there seems to be a lot of WOKE bs all around us, I think this forum is a last decent bastion of debate and sense. At least until we've had a few too many.

 

[jof]

I think we consume about the same.
Possibly a bit more processed meat like salami/bacon etc as older teens make their own snacks & eat us out of house & home.

But then I have always eeked out spaghetti sauces & curries with lentils & additional veg.

 

[Scrattajack]

I looked up what this "woke" word referred to and found that it means "not an arsehole". However, its meaning has changed recently, to mean "the views of someone I don't agree with".

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Whilst there seems to be a lot of WOKE bs all around us, I think this forum is a last decent bastion of debate and sense. At least until we've had a few too many.

I looked up what this "woke" word referred to and found that it means "not an arsehole". However, its meaning has changed recently, to mean "the views of someone I don't agree with".

Originally the term referred to a need to wake up to, and stay ‘woke’ to, the realities of Black people’s place in America and the system designed to keep them down. With the term becoming more mainstream recently it evolved to mean a more general sense of awareness to social injustice against all groups, although it remains closely associated with the Black Lives Matter movement.

To opponents of the social aims of such movements, however, it has become a catch-all term for a certain type of socially liberal ideology they dislike – much as the term ‘political correctness’ can often be.

What does 'woke' mean to Britons? | YouGov

 

[dad_of_jon]

to me it's more about the cancel culture. if you do not sign up or agree with us you'll be cancelled. Meat eaters kill the planet and are the cause of global warming etc. over principled numpties. I once worked with someone who vehemently was anti-american. OK I said, so you use apple,pc or Android? - er...
silence. A lot of these people want to see us all go back to living in caves but not themselves I'd wager. There are too many people telling us how to live our lives and forcing their views upon the tolerant. Giving up MSM has been my first step back towards sanity.

returning to topic.... I try and make the better choice when the opportunity presents. Fair trade - free range eggs, red tractor meat etc. I even gave up real greek yogurt because I didn't agree with FAGE shipping yogurt all that way. When I could have something similar a bit closer. yet I am a hypocrite as I usually buy made in japan cars where possible and some other stuff comes from further afield than necessary.

please don't mention where most of my hops come from either

 

[Chippy_Tea]

free range eggs,

We always buy free range eggs and buy our meat from a local butcher not that he is going to retire any time soon off the amount we buy.

 

[dad_of_jon]

We always buy free range eggs and buy our meat from a local butcher not that he is going to retire any time soon off the amount we buy.

I cycle past a few egg honesty boxes on the gower, each time I think I should carry an egg box on my bike rack , but it just seems a bit too weird

 

[RGeats]

I was in London a couple of weeks ago and visited the national history museum. They have an exhibition on at the moment called "our broken planet", which shows how humans have shaped and impacted the earth over the centuries. There were some infographics which I found very interesting and shocking to be honest. It has certainly made me think I bit more about what I'm eating and the impact I'm having.

People should be able to make their own choices, but have access to the information about their choices

 

[DavidDetroit]

As was mentioned, I think beef prices are the reason for reduction in most instances. The cost of hamburger where I get it from went from $1.89/lb to $10.50/lb over ten years. Edit: Since it's just me and my wife, consumption stays the same.
Meat gets a bad reputation anyway. If you want to fix a health crisis, zero out almost all sugar and the carbs.
As far as cancel culture, the conservatives are the biggest offenders.

 

[Donegal john]

I eat meat as much now as I ever did as I love it. Have a good butcher bought steak most weekends with dry aged rib eye being the favourite. Any red meat supermarket bought is in my mind a waste of money as it’s never aged and always too fresh and bright red unless it’s steak pieces that can be put in the slow cooker overnight as that’s the only way it becomes tender enough to enjoy. I love lamb as well and prefer it in an Indian to chicken. Some steaks in restaurants are very poor and can be very off putting as they are chewy and tasteless.
I like my steak cooked medium but the number of times I’ve been served it and it continues to bleed on the plate drives me mad. If your a chef learn how to cook and REST the meat ffs.
Also love duck, venison etc
I agree with the tasteless chicken from concentration camps mentioned on here and free range corn fed is a higher level for very little extra.
Good red meat is a beautiful thing

 

[DavidDetroit]

Here in Detroit I can get a 16oz, 35 Day dry-aged, bone-in filet mignon for $65 or a 20oz, 35 Day Dry-Aged Wagyu Bone In Ribeye for $77.
Decisions, decisions, decisions.

 

[Donegal john]

Here in Detroit I can get a 16oz, 35 Day dry-aged, bone-in filet mignon for $65 or a 20oz, 35 Day Dry-Aged Wagyu Bone In Ribeye for $77.
Decisions, decisions, decisions.

A pic of the menu from a steak restaurant I was at recently , one of the best steaks I’ve had. Prices here and there are not too far off by the looks of that.

 

[DavidDetroit]

not too far off by the looks of that.

It's hard to say. The prices are £48 for the first one and £57.75 for the second after adjustment. The problem is that the place I go to sells to restaurants so it would be astronomical to buy it at a restaurant.
On January 1st my family smokes a prime rib and that runs about £160. Do you have Costco or its equivalent? That's the only reason the prime rib price is so good.

 

[Covrich]

I eat less than I used to for sure. I will have it with evening meal say but for the rest of the day porridge Huel cereal bars fruit ect

 

[Binkei Huckaback]

to me it's more about the cancel culture. if you do not sign up or agree with us you'll be cancelled. Meat eaters kill the planet and are the cause of global warming etc. over principled numpties. I once worked with someone who vehemently was anti-american. ...There are too many people telling us how to live our lives and forcing their views upon the tolerant. Giving up MSM has been my first step back towards sanity.

You're obviously not anti-American given your appropriation of their buzzwords. Where does your news come from if it's not from 'MSM' and how do you know it's balanced and what the agenda of the owners/producers is?

It's a well know fact that eating meat is bad for the planet and it's population, not just in terms of global warming, but the impact of water and land used to grow food to feed animals. It's even worse at the supermarket, cheap takeaway and ready meal end of the market.

You're surely not trying to 'cancel' scientific fact are you?

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Eating meat is not bad for the planet over population is though. To feed 7+ billion people we are killing the planet.

 

[HSD]

Thirty plus years vegetarian and don’t miss it, and I grew up fishing and shooting game for the pot, hunting and then gutting etc. so no squeamish, if you killed it you had to prep it and eat it, teaches you respect for your food. Each to there own, but I do think the mass production is unsustainable as noted in above charts, however from what I have seen most of the world is eating more red meat, or aspires to, as Europeans eat less.

 

[RGeats]

Eating meat is not bad for the planet over population is though. To feed 7+ billion people we are killing the planet.

While I don't dispute what you say, it's a bit late to tell people to stop having kids, unfortunately. So we have to find ways for all 7+ billion to live on the planet with as small an impact as possible. Not an easy task!