Ok, so I got bored again and picked up some cheap apple juice from the local shop. Sterilized everything and made a starter and set a side. Mixed in apple juice, 150g sugar (should seeit about 6.5%) , pectolase, nutrient, tannin and some acid mix into fv and after the starter was established added that (youngs cider yeast, in case you want to know). I'll have a look in a few days and see how its coming along.