AG12 Dunkle with chocolate

[nobyipa]

Going for this

2.1kg wheat
1.6 Vienna
2kg Maris
80 g carawheat
90 g chocolate [English]
50 gram cara malt 100 srm

2 stage mash

10 litres 63 C 20 mins

8 litres 71C

Fly sparge

Using safale wheat yeast rehydrated 110 ml pre- boiled water 19C


24 gram fuggle at 90 mins
23 grams hallertauer hersbrucker 15 mins
Zero 13 gram hellertauer
so more bitter than the last wheat i did and darker in colour and using dry Safbrew WB - 06 and late zero hop addition
Just using up me reminents brew :drink:

 

[pittsy]

sounds good , will be lovely malty drink . More of a dunkel with the choc . Dunkles are great for christmas , hope all goes to plan :

 

[brewtim]

sounds good , will be lovely malty drink . More of a dunkel with the choc . Dunkles are great for christmas , hope all goes to plan :

Pittsy - I've just got some dark wheat to go in with my next wheaty, would this be used like choc, do you know what the proportions might be?

 

[nobyipa]

sounds good , will be lovely malty drink . More of a dunkel with the choc . Dunkles are great for christmas , hope all goes to plan :

thanks so sounds good and i now have a name for it cheers
Chocolate dunkle

 

[Ceejay]

Sounds awesome. So it's a choc dunkelweizen?What choc are you using? Should play off nicely with the banana and clove notes from the yeast :thumb:

 

[pittsy]

sounds good , will be lovely malty drink . More of a dunkel with the choc . Dunkles are great for christmas , hope all goes to plan :

Pittsy - I've just got some dark wheat to go in with my next wheaty, would this be used like choc, do you know what the proportions might be?

If using dark wheat only use up to 50% (unlike pale which is 70%)
I would also recommend using carawheat too
Something like ,
Dark wheat 45 to 50 %
Carawheat 10 to 15%
pilsners/ pale ale / vienna/ munich/ 39%
choc 1% (optional , for colour only)
ibu 12/15
wlp300
ferment 20/22c (warm more banana which is hidden with darker malts)

 

[nobyipa]

going for SRM of around 11
to get a red hue to it
using
English chocolate malt for colour only

 

[nobyipa]

will ferment at 21C
wondering what is the alcohol tolerance on safbrew WB - 06 any one know?
may go for less beer but higher ABV?

 

[pittsy]

be careful on increasing strength , it just loses flavour while % taste shines through . I would say 6% is pushing it , seems best at around 5 to 5.5% imo .

 

[nobyipa]

Keeping it to 4.5 to 5 %
Thanks Pittsy

 

[nobyipa]

2 stage mash didn't quite go to plan but 3 stage is happening

Mashed 63C 20 mins
68C 15 min
71C 1 houri

 

[pittsy]

sounds fine

 

[nobyipa]

26 litres in fermenter
1.050 OG

Reddish looking at mo

 

[nobyipa]

update
1.050 OG
got me new wort pump working
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not to clear photo but looking red/ruby
1.050







26 litres in fermenter

 

[pittsy]

you do know that's gonna blow , expect mess everywhere

 

[nobyipa]

seems to be behaving have 1/2 in ID blow off tube in it bubbling away nicely

 

[nobyipa]

Update
been at constant 1.008 since friday
5.6% abv

will bottle today
very different yeast character hardly any krausen scum [about 10mm]
just bubbled away till Thursday
very mild fermentation compared to white labs which flooded me fridge a bit
and the aroma is not half that of white labs
:drink:

 

[nobyipa]

all safely bottled up batch primed with 150 grams
had a wee taster
and was pleasantly surprised the amount of banana taste

???is white labs really worth the £9 inc p+p

or is this safbrew WB 06 just a bargain at 3rd of the price?

will find out soon

:hmm:

 

[nobyipa]

Wow wow wow
What a difference
Clove clove and more clove this beer is lovely
:drink:

 

[pittsy]

That's good mate , glad you've got nice clove. Brewing a dunkle tends to hide the banana and clove a fair bit . A bit early to ask but what if any toasted flavour are you getting and also are you getting any sweetness (a touch of caramel ) I'm still trying to get this recipe right .