Advice! Help what would you brew?

[Simmoart]

I have got a mix of ingredients given from folk.
I've only brewed once and would love some advice from more experienced AG brewers for some recipe ideas, would like to do a stout and some good ale or bitters, possible steam lager?

Flaked barely (500g
Roasted barley 500g
Crystal malt 1kg
Chocolate malt 500g
Black malt 500 g
Pale malt (12g)

Halletau hops
Northern brewer hops
Styrian Golding hops
Challenger hops
Kent Golding hops

Dextrose

 

[cheshirehomebrew]

all depends on what beer you like, you can make a stout (englosh or irish) if you like with the chocolate and black malt, or leave it out all together and use the other malts to make an IPA.

You can make a black IPA but it really defeats the object and is a contradiction, a porter is also possible as is a blond beer using the pale malt/flaked barley etc.

have a peek at this link, lots of styles/recipes to choose from

http://www.beersmithrecipes.com/

 

[clibit]

You could do an Irish stout with the pale malt, flaked barley and roast barley. Bitter with Northern Brewer.

A pale ale or IPA with pale malt and Crystal. Bitter with NB or Challenger, any of the other hops for flavour / aroma at the end of the boil.

Porter with pale malt, Crystal and chocolate. Maybe a little black or roast barley too. Hops as above.

Brown ale or mild with pale malt, Crystal and a little chocolate. Hops as above.

Blonde ale with pale malt and hops as above.

How much you want to make?

 

[brewpirate]

Faux California Steam Beer

1.049 OG
1.011 FG
31 IBU
5.0% ABV
12 SRM

3.75kg Pale malt
450g Crystal (45?)
60g Chocolate (425?)

20g Northern Brewer 60min
30g Hallertau 10min
15g Northern Brewer 10min

Safale US-05

Ferment at 17c (Should make a lager like flavor and suppress ester production)

 

[Simmoart]

Thanks folks, looking to make 5gallon batches, I reckon I can do a few batches out of what I have. I like stouts porters IPAs bitters and ales, definay going to try the steam

 

[brewpirate]

You have plenty tp ake some stouts. With the steam you can also add some roasted barley at the end before you sparge or in the boil for 5 min.

Here is a steam beer kit I made
http://www.betterbeerkits.com/products/california-suga-beer-kit

 

[Simmoart]

Any recipes with weights and times for the stout and IPA's and Porter?
Tried looking on Beersmith but I end up getting lost...

 

[cheshirehomebrew]

I tend to go with amounts of ingredients that wont overpower eachother and balance nicely, 60 minute steep for grains plus 90 minute boil with the hops

http://allrecipes.com/howto/beer-brewing-for-beginners/

 

[clibit]

Guinness Style Stout

Batch Size (L): 25.0
Original Gravity (OG): 1.048
Alcohol by Volume (ABV): 4.72 %
Bitterness (IBU): 46.4 (Average)
Brewhouse Efficiency (%): 70

3.800 kg Pale Ale Malt (65.52%)
1.500 kg Flaked Barley (25.86%)
0.500 kg Roasted Barley (8.62%)

35.0 g East Kent Golding Leaf (6.5% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (1.4 g/L)
25.0 g Northern Brewer Leaf (9% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (1 g/L)

Single step Infusion mash at 67°C


Porter

Batch Size (L): 22.7
Original Gravity (OG): 1.052
Alcohol by Volume (ABV): 5.11 %
Bitterness (IBU): 31.9 (Average)
Brewhouse Efficiency (%): 70

4.775 kg Pale Ale Malt (87.36%)
0.377 kg Chocolate (6.9%)
0.314 kg Crystal 80 (5.74%)

28.0 g Challenger Leaf (9.3% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes
14.0 g Styrian Golding Leaf (4.4% Alpha) @ 15 Minutes
Mash at 66C

English IPA

Batch Size (L): 19.0
Original Gravity (OG): 1.060
Alcohol by Volume (ABV): 5.89 %
Bitterness (IBU): 58.7 (Average)
Brewhouse Efficiency (%): 75

4.500 kg Pale Ale Malt (93.75%)
0.300 kg Crystal 60 (6.25%)

35.0 g Northern Brewer Leaf (9.6% Alpha) @ 45 Minutes (Boil) (1.8 g/L)
21.0 g Challenger Leaf (9.3% Alpha) @ 30 Minutes (Boil) (1.1 g/L)
28.0 g East Kent Golding Leaf (6.5% Alpha) @ 5 Minutes (Boil) (1.5 g/L)
28.0 g Styrian Golding Leaf (4.4% Alpha) @ 0 Days (Dry Hop) (1.5 g/L)

Single step Infusion at 66°C

 

[Simmoart]

Cheers Clibit !

 

[MyQul]

Guinness Style Stout


35.0 g East Kent Golding Leaf (6.5% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (1.4 g/L)
25.0 g Northern Brewer Leaf (9% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (1 g/L)

Whats the point of the EKG? Wouldn't the roastyness of the style swamp the delicate flavours from it? Wouldn't it be better just to up the NB? I've read it's better to just use higher IBU for bittering.

Not saying your wrong or anything. I'm genuinely interested as I feel my hop knowledge is sorely lacking

 

[brewpirate]

The NB would over power the EKG, I would add the EKG later in the boil like at 30-15min to add some complexity

 

[clibit]

You can do anything you want!

Hops don't provide the same bitterness. Fuggles is often used for bittering and so is EKG. It won't make much difference in a stout, but it will have a small effect. Fuggles is used to bitter a lot of stouts, and has lower alpha acid content than EKG.

 

[MyQul]

Hops don't provide the same bitterness. Fuggles is often used for bittering and so is EKG. It won't make much difference in a stout, but it will have a small effect. Fuggles is used to bitter a lot of stouts, and has lower alpha acid content than EKG.

You can do anything you want!

Definately - If I want t make a cucumber sardine porter, I damn well will. That's what home brewing is all about right?

I use fuggles a lot myself for both bittering and aroma as I like to use English hops but I wasn't are EKG was used for bittering. I guess you can use any hop for bittering as they all have IBU's in them, you just have to use more of the lower IBUed hops?

 

[clibit]

Yes you use more. But not a lot, northern brewer has about 9% AA and EKG about 6%. From Beersmith.com:

"The most popular Irish Stout hops by far is East Kent Goldings, though other English hops such as Fuggle, Challenger, Northdown and Target. American varieties such as Cascade are sometimes used by American microbreweries. Traditionally a single hop addition is made at the beginning of the boil for bitterness. Hop aroma is not a significant factor, so aroma hops are rarely added to Irish Stout."

 

[brewpirate]

I have been experimenting with adding EKG late into the boil since I have had a ton and really enjoy the flavor and aroma. The last beer I blended some EKG, Crystal and Centennial at 10min which created an awesome aroma, looking forward to trying it out.

The big concern with lower AA hops is you need more hops which increases the vegetable content and can produce off flavors in lighter beers but stouts can hide a lot.

 

[clibit]

I have been experimenting with adding EKG late into the boil since I have had a ton and really enjoy the flavor and aroma. The last beer I blended some EKG, Crystal and Centennial at 10min which created an awesome aroma, looking forward to trying it out.

That sounds like a great hop mix.

The big concern with lower AA hops is you need more hops which increases the vegetable content and can produce off flavors in lighter beers but stouts can hide a lot.

My last batch of EKG was over 6%AA, which means it is not a great deal lower than Challenger, which tends to be 8-9%, and is used a lot for bittering. Or Northdown, similar to Challenger.

There's no need to use EKG for bittering, but no need not to either, and many breweries do.