Plaato to be discontinued

MrJay83 · Nov 5, 2023

I was really hoping to get a couple of these at some stage. I'm going to keep a close eye out if anyone can build a work around for accessing the data and see if I can pick up a couple in the fire sale. Apparently they won't be making the API open source.

Rwilts · Nov 5, 2023

Disappointing for those who have invested , I don't imagine they were cheap

Agentgonzo · Nov 5, 2023

Rwilts said:
Disappointing for those who have invested , I don't imagine they were cheap

Always a problem for internet of things devices. You buy something, but at soon as the vendor turns their servers off, your device is worthless.

I don't understand why they won't make their APIs public

Brew_DD2 · Nov 5, 2023

Agentgonzo said:
Always a problem for internet of things devices. You buy something, but at soon as the vendor turns their servers off, your device is worthless.

I don't understand why they won't make their APIs public

Maybe trying to sell their IP?

MrJay83 · Nov 5, 2023

From what I've read they say the API is so intertwined with other products that they can't. Sounds a bit

to me after selling people such expensive equipment.

Agentgonzo · Nov 5, 2023

MrJay83 said:
From what I've read they say the API is so intertwined with other products that they can't. Sounds a bit to me after selling people such expensive equipment.

What other products do they make ?

MrJay83 · Nov 5, 2023

Agentgonzo said:
What other products do they make ?

Don't know. A different company in some other market I would imagine.

Agentgonzo · Nov 5, 2023

MrJay83 said:
Don't know. A different company in some other market I would imagine.

It's hard to see how their API could be so intertwined with other products that they couldn't release it then.

MrJay83 · Nov 5, 2023

I'm assuming there must be other uses for it that they can make money from. Don't get me wrong... I'm not defending the decision. If I knew the API would go public then I would be buying a couple of these heavily discounted devices today.

CookieMonster · Nov 6, 2023

Really poor on their front. Don't mind if they're wanting to focus on "Pro" product line but not at the cost of your customer base which contributed so much to their initial growth. Should make the software open source. Its something as a society we seem to have become accepting off, true believer that if you buy something you own it. The IOT is killing that philosophy and putting consumers at real risk. Similar examples have existed with printers (where firmware updates have killed 3rd party ink), Internet cameras (features marketed as included later hide behind a pay wall)...poor form Plato

stripeyjoe · Nov 6, 2023

The business model of selling something once and then providing back end
server and app support for free doesn't work. You would have to make the thing you’re selling cost way over its actual manufacturing cost to cover the ongoing support. A cheaper initial price coupled with an ongoing subscription seems a better way of doing it. Maybe they could bring in subscriptions for people who want to retain the service, could bundle it up with one or two of the third party apps that integrate with Plaato devices, like Brewfather and Taplist.

MrJay83 · Nov 6, 2023

Link below to a blog were a guy went to Plaato inquiring about 3rd party app integration and when didn't get the response he liked he then did it himself.
Might be useful for any of you with them.
https://marcyoung.us/post/plaato_keg_esphome/

LeeH · Nov 6, 2023

FFS, I have 3 linked to Taplist.io

Not happy.

CookieMonster · Nov 25, 2023

Bit of an update for those with Plaato products and feeling a little downbeat. There may be hope yet

Homebrewing

CookieMonster · Jan 18, 2024

For those with Plaato devices, a session was held to discuss the future of Plaato consumer devices and there continued support post 2025. The session was recorded for those that were unable to attend:
Link

LeeH · Jan 28, 2025

Any update on this?

CookieMonster · Jan 29, 2025

Nope, not heard a thing.

MCRBrew · Jan 29, 2025

No affiliation but googling turned this up:

https://markyoung.us/post/plaato_keg_esphome/

https://github.com/myoung34/plaato-keg-esphome

Looks like the Plaato is using an ESP32 architecture so can be re-flashed with alternative firmware. Once this is in you can do whatever you want.

Might keep an eye on ebay for some cheap Plaato devices and have a play if I can find some time.

HiOctaine · Jan 29, 2025

mine is still showing what's left in the keg but i dont get notifications of when a drink is poured anymore.

hopefully someone will come up with something as they are useful bits of kit

MashBag · Jan 29, 2025

Agentgonzo said:
Always a problem for internet of things devices. You buy something, but at soon as the vendor turns their servers off, your device is worthless.

I don't understand why they won't make their APIs public

Yup, been bitten a couple of times like that and/or "out of support" so you have to buy a new one.

Can't wait for WiFi connected AI wellies.

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