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Very interesting. Conspiracy theories anyone?

1. Tax management?
2. In house choas?
3. New management playing catchup?
4. Seasonal fluctuations?
 
MashBag said:
Very interesting. Conspiracy theories anyone?

1. Tax management?
2. In house choas?
3. New management playing catchup?
4. Seasonal fluctuations?
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Just one of those things that happens - but QC should have caught it, and would have at a more experienced brewery.

But it's just terrible management to be pointing the finger like that, it just ensures that people keep quiet about any issues when you want them to be shouting about them.
 
Brewdog should own it and not be blaming staff that is a internal affair not for public knowledge
 
Should this copy editor be appluaded for this, or rebuked for being technically wrong?😂
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Surely they have a taste panel to make sure their products are drinkable? I work in food and we taste every batch before it goes to the warehouse.
 
The Baron said:
Brewdog should own it and not be blaming staff that is a internal affair not for public knowledge
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Hang on, hang on.. I'm not one to shy away from criticising Brewdog, but in this case this was an internal email to staff, which someone has leaked to the press.


And as for "Beer industry expert" Clarisa Moles opinion criticising it's tone - they are niether a industry expert or someone who has any relevant industrial experience. They should stick to their error strewn books about Lager and suchlike.
 
marshbrewer said:
Hang on, hang on.. I'm not one to shy away from criticising Brewdog, but in this case this was an internal email to staff, which someone has leaked to the press.


And as for "Beer industry expert" Clarisa Moles opinion criticising it's tone - they are niether a industry expert or someone who has any relevant industrial experience. They should stick to their error strewn books about Lager and suchlike.
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Sorry Marsh did not realise it was a internal email that had been leaked. I stand corrected
 
The Baron said:
Brewdog should own it and not be blaming staff that is a internal affair not for public knowledge
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It sounds like some cans reached customers and their complaints were the first they knew about it, so in that situation it will be impossible to cover it up.

But pointing the finger of blame is the kind of behaviour that upsets people enough to leak internal documents. Especially in a company like Brewdog which is under scrutiny already for the way they treat employees.
 
Northern_Brewer said:
It sounds like some cans reached customers and their complaints were the first they knew about it, so in that situation it will be impossible to cover it up.

But pointing the finger of blame is the kind of behaviour that upsets people enough to leak internal documents. Especially in a company like Brewdog which is under scrutiny already for the way they treat employees.
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pointing finger of blame or trying to establish root cause of the problem so changes to processes and procedures can be made to ensure it doesn't happen again. Someone somewhere screwed up...how do you establish what happened without, as you say, "point the finger of blame". Without understanding what went wrong just guarantees it will happen again. I guess depending on how guilty you feel in this might influence which side of the fence you are and how that might direct your response. There is always two sides to the story.
 
hoppyscotty said:
pointing finger of blame or trying to establish root cause of the problem so changes to processes and procedures can be made to ensure it doesn't happen again. Someone somewhere screwed up...how do you establish what happened without, as you say, "point the finger of blame". Without understanding what went wrong just guarantees it will happen again.
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You put the emphasis on "how do we stop this happening again?" rather than "what went wrong this particular time?" (with the implication of who was it that did the wrong thing). The airline industry is really hot on that kind of approach, purely because it's literally a matter of life or death if screwups happen, but psychologically people much prefer to point fingers.
 
Northern_Brewer said:
You put the emphasis on "how do we stop this happening again?" rather than "what went wrong this particular time?" (with the implication of who was it that did the wrong thing). The airline industry is really hot on that kind of approach, purely because it's literally a matter of life or death if screwups happen, but psychologically people much prefer to point fingers.
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You’re reading far too much into what I wrote..:I used the language that was used further up. The point I was making is that let’s not make assumptions about who is at fault based on leaked emails that are probably just trying to establish what went wrong…that is exactly what happens in the airline industry, an investigation happens in private and in a controlled group with no external comms until progress in the investigation has been made. I know as I work in the airline industry and have done for 30 years. If the email was leaked there is usually a reason why things are leaked.

And if an individual in the airline industry is found to be at fault they are absolutely ‘blamed’ and possibly could face prison under certain circumstances. But ultimately it’s about understanding it if was people, process, machinery/equipment or something else that caused the problem and taking steps to ensure it can’t happen again.
 

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