As the brother of a lad murdered using a knife said its a waste of time the people who carry these will switch to big kitchen knives it will not stop knife crime.
Zombie knife ban
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Yep they still manage to improvise in prisons so getting hold of alternative sharp/ pointy tools and utensils in regular life is simple.
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Well exactly, unless they ban all knives, which will make cooking dinner a bit tricky, if criminals want to arm themselves they will use whatever they can get hold of. I'm sure I could make a proper mess of someone with my chef's knife but I'm not going to do that as I don't feel the need to be a murderer.
Also, I'm sure there are legitimate uses for machetes, my Dad had one for hacking down brambles and stuff.
Also, I'm sure there are legitimate uses for machetes, my Dad had one for hacking down brambles and stuff.
I believe it's any knife over 8 inch shouldn’t that have been any knife of any size.
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Yup. I still have one in the shed for that purpose... Does that make me a murderer? Or the licensed guns in the cabinet?
It's kind of staggering when you look at the definition of 'zombie knives' under the ban: 'any blade over eight inches with a pointed end' so that's the vast majority of comprehensive kitchen knife blocks prohibited now.
Many years ago I collected swords, knives, axes etc (all responsibly sold/given away now).
At one point I think I had in excess of 60 swords and a couple of hundred knives, the vast majority were 'display only' but a great deal were intended for practical use (camping/hiking/martial arts etc).
Of the myriad uses for a knife, I think I pretty much covered them all, with the exception of using them in violence. Owning bladed articles didn't magically turn me into a raving psychopath with a penchant for stabbing. I despise violence and always have.
The issue is people choosing to act in a violent manner, banning knives only hurts those who would use them for legitimate reasons, criminals will always get their hands on things they aren't supposed to have.
Why those in power can't simply join the dots, punish the perpetrator of the act rather than anyone who could potentially perpetrate an act, in other words use common sense, is quite beyond me.
Many years ago I collected swords, knives, axes etc (all responsibly sold/given away now).
At one point I think I had in excess of 60 swords and a couple of hundred knives, the vast majority were 'display only' but a great deal were intended for practical use (camping/hiking/martial arts etc).
Of the myriad uses for a knife, I think I pretty much covered them all, with the exception of using them in violence. Owning bladed articles didn't magically turn me into a raving psychopath with a penchant for stabbing. I despise violence and always have.
The issue is people choosing to act in a violent manner, banning knives only hurts those who would use them for legitimate reasons, criminals will always get their hands on things they aren't supposed to have.
Why those in power can't simply join the dots, punish the perpetrator of the act rather than anyone who could potentially perpetrate an act, in other words use common sense, is quite beyond me.
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Appleton Brews
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All knives (except kitchen knives) should be banned and like firearms only sold if the buyer can prove the need due to their occupation.
My son in law’s nephew was stabbed and died in London.
My son in law’s nephew was stabbed and died in London.
Appleton Brews
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That’s the same argument the Americans use to justify firearms. Guns in the UK were banned for good reasons and that has significantly reduced gun deaths, banning these knives will do the same.
It's not quite the same principle though is it?
A cutting/stabbing weapon can be fashioned out of an almost inexhaustible amount of everyday items, some of the prison improvisations are a fascinating example of ingenuity, if rather sinister
Someone can go outside, pick up a chunk of flint, split it in half and voila, a potentially deadly cutting weapon.
Guns can't be improvised in such a manner.
At the end of the day, knives don't kill people, people kill people.
Spot on, banning these knives will not stop people being stabbed by the idiots that carry them as a status symbol they will find something else, remember back in the bad old days of football hooligans the Stanley knife was the weapon of choice back then the aim was to maim not kill.
Banning knives won't stop the lunatics taking them out. What's the deterrent? These people know the consequences of using and carrying weapons.
A lad I grew up with murdered a mates brother...ruined two families lives. Senseless.
A lad I grew up with murdered a mates brother...ruined two families lives. Senseless.
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Don't get many zombies anymore, so it's not a terrible loss?
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You not think this is just being done for optics, "look see we've done something" knowing it's going to make next to no difference at all, "but at least we tried" etc etc
Exactly, this will not make one bit of difference they just want to be seen to be doing something will they ban swords and Rambo knives next?
Fish knives and cheese knives next! Nasty,dangerous things!
Appleton Brews
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The scum that carry these knives want a top of the range knive not a kitchen knive to show their masculinity. Ban them and they won’t use kitchen knives, pointed sticks or flint axes.
It'll be sharp word's next
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I couldn't disagree more if you are the type of person who carries a Zombie knife for self protection and to show your masculinity you will carry a smaller knife like the one below..
What constitutes a zombie knife?
The ones shown on the news all seem to have lots of serrations and flared parts to the blade. In my previous life, when I did a more honest and less self serving job, I regularly had to sort out vascular injuries from penetrating trauma.
I shudder to think what internal injuries (vascular and otherwise) the blades I’ve been seeing would cause. The sort of blade in the picture above
tends to make clean incisions that are amenable to simple suturing.
The ones shown on the news all seem to have lots of serrations and flared parts to the blade. In my previous life, when I did a more honest and less self serving job, I regularly had to sort out vascular injuries from penetrating trauma.
I shudder to think what internal injuries (vascular and otherwise) the blades I’ve been seeing would cause. The sort of blade in the picture above
tends to make clean incisions that are amenable to simple suturing.
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What is a zombie knife?
Zombie-style knives and machetes are defined as weapons with blades that are more than eight inches (20cm) long, usually with a serrated cutting edge.
Zombie knives, inspired by weapons from zombie movies or TV shows, also have one or more of the following: a serrated cutting edge more than two inches (5cm) long; more than one hole in the blade; spikes or more than two sharp points in the blade.
