Bitter_Dave
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'In the race to lift the world out of pandemic lockdowns, the Covid vaccine was developed by scientists at the University of Oxford in record time. A process that normally takes 10 years was accelerated down to about 10 months.
In November 2020, it was heralded as "a vaccine for the world" as it was far cheaper and easier to store than other Covid vaccines. The pharmaceutical giant AstraZeneca had agreed to manufacture it en masse.
Initially, it was the cornerstone of the UK's plans to vaccinate our way out of lockdown.
However, its reputation was dented as unusual blood clots emerged as a rare side effect of the vaccine, and the UK turned to alternatives.'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-6... three billion,had made a commercial decision
It was so incredibly safe, said the 'experts' then those very same 'experts' recalled it as it was unsafe...
The words 'p**s up' and 'brewery' come to mind...
In November 2020, it was heralded as "a vaccine for the world" as it was far cheaper and easier to store than other Covid vaccines. The pharmaceutical giant AstraZeneca had agreed to manufacture it en masse.
Initially, it was the cornerstone of the UK's plans to vaccinate our way out of lockdown.
However, its reputation was dented as unusual blood clots emerged as a rare side effect of the vaccine, and the UK turned to alternatives.'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-6... three billion,had made a commercial decision
It was so incredibly safe, said the 'experts' then those very same 'experts' recalled it as it was unsafe...
The words 'p**s up' and 'brewery' come to mind...
That's a very small sample size.
Some rather selective quotes you've taken from that article.
3 billion doses. How many adverse events or deaths?
Those numbers seem to vary dramatically from source to source, but is it really relevant in the light of the recall?
What recall? The article says that they withdrawing it as a commercial decision. Not altogether surprising given how few doses are given now vs the first couple of years, and not the same as a recall. Or am I missing something?
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This is business speak, what they really mean is recall, give it a few years and this will be another blood, post office scandal, in the mean time they will try and destroy all the evidence
A recall is a very specific thing in medicine. It has not been recalled.
I'll leave the soothsaying to others.
Do you honestly believe the vaccines caused deaths or is it just a case of somr people will die whether they have it or don't?
I know 3 people who now have bad lungs, and they were told by their doctors it was caused by the vaccine they had, i just can't remember which one
Surely if these doctors knew without a shadow of doubt and had evidence vaccines were causing lung damage they would have been duty bound to report it, if this is correct it would have been happening all over the world yet it never made it into the press
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Let's get this straight. You personally *know* (not random people on internet, or second hand stories) people who were *told* by their GP their lung problems were definitely *caused* by the vaccines? I'm sorry, but i would absolutely astonished if a GP felt able to reach that diagnosis and report it to a patient like that.
I once licked the bottom of my shoe to prove a point (don’t ask why, it was a very long time ago) and I didn’t get sick so I recommend that everyone does it as there’s clearly no risk, in fact it might even have health benefits!
You stick to conjecture and subjective experience, I’ll stick to evidence based, peer reviewed research.
Exactly Dave no GP would tell a patient their lungs were damaged by a vaccine even if they suspected they were they would need concrete evidence and the last person the would tell is the patient.
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Yes personally know, one of them lives directly over the road, did you not see the program on tv the country is riddled with people who are now sick because of the vaccines particularly Scotland
Believe what you want, all i said was these people said their doctor told them their illness was caused by the vaccines
Believe what you want but my sister who is anti-vax and not had any of The covid vaccines spent a month in high dependency and intensive care during December 21 and January 22 with covid.
She now has permanent lung and heart damage. I wonder if that was caused by the TB vaccination she had as a teenager
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I am not saying I don't believe they told you what I am saying is it never happened in the first place for the reasons i posted earlier -
Exactly Dave no GP would tell a patient their lungs were damaged by a vaccine even if they suspected they were they would need concrete evidence and the last person they would tell us the patient
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No, didn't see that programme. Have you got some details, or even a link to it? I'd like to see it for myself.
Why would a vaccine have regional affects? Could it not be the fact that Glasgow in particular already has areas of with poor health?
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Agreed. I think people reporting this are at best exaggerating or distorting what GPs said when *asked* if vaccines did not cause any lung issues. Doctors can say little with 100% certainty - it's not how science works. Confirmation bias means people look for gaps in evidence to back up what they truly believe. This then gets reported as *fact*
