CML yeast recommendation

Rob11TC · Mar 11, 2022

Hi all
Don't know anything about yeast and want to get some for my clone recipies. Going to be doing, broadside, directors, exmore gold and probably black sheep or old hooky.Any recommendations which ones to get from CML?
Doing the clones out of Graham Wheeles snd 23l batch size.
Thank you all

Clint · Mar 11, 2022

Probably "4" for that lot. Or you could try the Bieor.

An Ankoù · Mar 11, 2022

Beòir is a decent yeast. But I've been using Pia to very good effect in my last few brews. It's clean, ferments rapidly at 16-18C and settles out quickly. It's supposed to be a New Zealand Ale yeast- I've never heard of NZ Ale yeast! Frnankly, CML yeasts are so reasonably priced that you can afford to experiment.

Rob11TC · Mar 11, 2022

Will 1 packet be enough for 23l or is it best to add a bit extra from another packet and store till next brew day?

Leon103 · Mar 11, 2022

Rob11TC said:
Will 1 packet be enough for 23l or is it best to add a bit extra from another packet and store till next brew day?

Add another packet, they are cheap enough

Cheshire Cat · Mar 11, 2022

Use Midland for those beers.

clib · Mar 11, 2022

I would vary the yeast a bit myself, to learn about different yeasts and to make the beers vary more than they would with the same yeast.

Midland, Four, Clipper, Beoir, The Firm.

Atlantic, House, Pia are options too I think.

Alternatively, you could spend the tenner on a pack of liquid yeast and use it for all the brews. Learn how to save and reuse yeast. And use a brewery quality yeast.

An Ankoù · Mar 11, 2022

This is one that I want to try. I've just got hold of a sachet, but haven't tried it yet:

ALE STRAIN CLASSIFICATION: A top-fermenting ale yeast suitable for a variety of ales. Whether it's pale ale, English, Bitter this is a great all-rounder
Saccharomyces cerevisiae. RECOMMENDED TEMPERATURE RANGE: 16 - 25°C; ATTENUATION: (73-82%); FLOCCULATION RATE: 75-78%; VIABLE YEAST CELLS: >20 x 109 cells per gram; GMO STATUS: GMO Free; Max brew strength 9.5%ABV

Also very keen to try out the Høg Norsk.
So many beers to make, so little time...

Cwrw666 · Mar 11, 2022

An Ankoù said:
Also very keen to try out the Høg Norsk.

I've used that one. A good all rounder.

marshbrewer · Mar 11, 2022

Their "House" yeast is very similar to S-33, and goes well with BEòIR to give a slightly ester finish with descend flocculation and attenuation. They are cheap enough so two packets isn't too expensive.

Rob11TC · Mar 11, 2022

Gone with, the firm, midland and four...
Thanks all, I might have to go back to basics and do the same beer with different yeasts to see what difference it makes.

Cheshire Cat · Mar 11, 2022

The firm has got a lower attenuation than the others, I co-pitched it with midland.

clib · Mar 23, 2023

Hi folks. I'm wondering about getting some CML yeasts that match the big brands and wonder if you can confirm from experience which of these have close matches...

S-04 - Four?
US-05 - Five?
Lalbrew New England - none?
S-23 - Hell?
K-97 - Hog Norsk?
T-58 - Flushed Nun?

Maybe we need a table that matches CML yeasts to similar Lallemand and Fermentis yeasts? Can you help out above or below?

S-33 - House
BE-134 -
BE-256 -
W34/70 - Hell-ish?
S-189 - None?
WB-06 - Gretel? both diastatic

Lalbrew:
Nottingham - Midland
Abbaye
Belle Saison - Wallonia???
Wit -
Koln Kolsch -
Diamond - Hell
London -
Munich Classic -
Windsor - The Firm
Verdant - Clipper

pilgrimhudd · Mar 23, 2023

Agree with Penine, Midland is a good one. I've never had great results with 4.

Agentgonzo · Mar 23, 2023

clib said:
Alternatively, you could spend the tenner on a pack of liquid yeast and use it for all the brews. Learn how to save and reuse yeast. And use a brewery quality yeast.

In fairness, you could do all of that with a single £2 sachet of brewery quality dried yeast as well.

Agentgonzo · Mar 23, 2023

clib said:
Maybe we need a table that matches CML yeasts to similar Lallemand and Fermentis yeasts? Can you help out above or below?

I'm pretty sure Lille saison is lallemand belle saison

Agentgonzo · Mar 23, 2023

Rob11TC said:
Gone with, the firm, midland and four...
Thanks all, I might have to go back to basics and do the same beer with different yeasts to see what difference it makes.

If you have the fermenter space, you can always split one brew into two fermenters and pitch different yeast

Moe · Mar 23, 2023

I asked them last week which of their yeasts would be best used instead of Verdant, he told me Clipper

pilgrimhudd · Mar 23, 2023

Agentgonzo said:
If you have the fermenter space, you can always split one brew into two fermenters and pitch different yeast

I like doing that

Benfleet Brewery · Mar 23, 2023

Moe said:
I asked them last week which of their yeasts would be best used instead of Verdant, he told me Clipper

I’ve used Clipper a couple of times now in NEPAs and been really pleased with the resulting beer.

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