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A statue of Margaret Thatcher which stands in her home town in Lincolnshire has been vandalised for a third time.

The £300,000 sculpture in St Peter's Hill in Grantham, which is subject to CCTV surveillance, has been daubed with the words "Tories out".
The bronze statue was vandalised in May two weeks after a man was fined for egging the monument within hours of its installation.
Lincolnshire Police have been contacted for a comment.

The sculpture, which sits atop a 10ft (3m) high plinth, was offered to South Kesteven District Council after plans to erect it in Parliament Square in London were rejected.
The baroness was born in Grantham in 1925 and died in April 2013, aged 87.
The only previous memorial to her in the town was a plaque on the corner of North Parade and Broad Street to mark where she was born.
 
Business Secretary Jacob Rees-Mogg says former Prime Minister Boris Johnson will "clearly" stand to be the next Tory leader, saying there's a "great deal" of support for him.

Asked whether he truly had the necessary 100 Conservative MPs supporting him to get his name on the ballot, Rees-Mogg says "the people who are doing the numbers" for Johnson's campaign say he does.

The BBC's own tally of public support puts Johnson on 55 MPs, Rishi Sunak on 129 MPs and Penny Mordaunt on 23 MPs.

Rees-Mogg adds that Johnson has been "the greatest electoral asset" the Conservative Party has had in modern times.

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Business Secretary Jacob Rees-Mogg says former Prime Minister Boris Johnson will "clearly" stand to be the next Tory leader, saying there's a "great deal" of support for him.
Asked whether he truly had the necessary 100 Conservative MPs supporting him to get his name on the ballot, Rees-Mogg says "the people who are doing the numbers" for Johnson's campaign say he does.
The BBC's own tally of public support puts Johnson on 55 MPs, Rishi Sunak on 129 MPs and Penny Mordaunt on 23 MPs.
Rees-Mogg adds that Johnson has been "the greatest electoral asset" the Conservative Party has had in modern times.
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I think that Lord Snooty has been misquoted, should read "the greatest electoral ass"
 
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It's a shame none of the Tory voters are moving to the lib Dems or greens, but as long as the blue line keeps on going down I'll remain happy!



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Who would have thought Liz Truss would have done more for the labour party than anyone since Blair
 
It's a shame none of the Tory voters are moving to the lib Dems or greens, but as long as the blue line keeps on going down I'll remain happy
Something the Tories will be counting on, since 2019 they've been a coalition of ukip, BNP, Brexit party, Britain first and others. Under FPTP a split vote would help them.
There may be agreements to vote tactically to get the Tories out though
 
This could easily turn out to be a huge anti-climax, its looking like Penny Mordaunt is not going to get to the 100 threshold needed to formally enter if BJ doesn't also get the 100 Rishi Sunak gets the job, his own party didn't want him last time and instead voted Lizzy in and look how that turned out, the mind boggles.

The big unknowns of the Tory leadership race​

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Jonathan Blake
BBC political correspondent

In a contest that is as unpredictable as it is extraordinary, there are a few things we can say for sure.
The momentum is with ex-Chancellor Rishi Sunak. He has by far the most support among MPs, well past the 100 he needs to formally enter.
There are questions about the true level of support for former PM Boris Johnson. His backers say he has plenty but the number declared publicly is conspicuously low.
Commons leader Penny Mordaunt does not yet have anything like enough support to ensure a place in the contest.
A new prime minister could be installed as soon as tomorrow afternoon and yet we know very little detail about the policies of any contender.
But some big unknowns remain.
Will Boris Johnson stand after all? If not, will he endorse Rishi Sunak whose resignation triggered his downfall? Who will Penny Mordaunt and her supporters swing behind?
A lot is likely to unfold in the hours before the 2pm deadline for candidates to put forward their nominations on Monday.
 
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UK faces tougher austerity era - ex-Bank chief​

The UK faces a "more difficult" era of austerity than the one following the financial crisis in order to stabilise the economy, a former governor of the Bank of England has warned.
Lord Mervyn King said the average person could face "significantly higher taxes" to fund public spending.
Chancellor Jeremy Hunt is scheduled to set out his economic plans on 31 October.
He has already scrapped almost all the tax cuts announced under Liz Truss.
Mr Hunt has said: "This government will take the difficult decisions necessary to ensure there is trust and confidence in our national finances.
"That means decisions of eye-watering difficulty."
Speaking on Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg, Lord King said that "it is time to front up" with the public about the difficulties the country is facing.
He said "public expenditure isn't going down if anything it will go up therefore taxes will have to rise to fill the gap which is there at present".

"That doesn't make a very happy picture for the next few years," said Lord King.
"But what we need is a government that will actually tell us honestly there is a reduction in our national standard of living because we've decided to help Ukraine and confront Russia and that means that all of us are going to have to share the burden, we can't just put all of it on our children and grandchildren."

'Significantly higher taxes'​

Asked if the UK could be facing a similar period of austerity that was introduced by the then Chancellor George Osborne in 2010, Lord King said: "In some ways it could be more difficult."
He said: "The challenge is if we want European levels of welfare payments and public spending, you cannot finance that with American levels of tax rates, so we may need to confront the need to have significantly higher taxes on the average person.
"There isn't enough money there among the rich to get it back."

Mr Hunt has reversed nearly all the tax cuts set out in September's mini-budget. This included a 1p cut in income tax which was due in April. A decision to cut the top rate of tax for people earning £150,000 or more had already been scrapped.
Uncertainty remains, however, about public spending, as the Conservative Party undertakes another leadership race to choose a leader and prime minister to replace Ms Truss.
Last week, Ms Truss said she was committed to a Tory manifesto pledge in 2019, made by the then Prime Minister Boris Johnson, to raise pensions in line with prices.
The triple lock means state pension payments rise by whatever is higher - inflation, average earnings or 2.5%.

Printing money​

On Sunday, Rishi Sunak declared he was in the running to take over as Tory leader and prime minister and said he would "deliver on the promise of the 2019 manifesto".
Leadership rival Penny Mordaunt said: "We have a majority and a mandate to deliver a true 2019 manifesto." Mr Johnson is also expected to announce his candidacy, according to Business Secretary Jacob Rees-Mogg but is yet to make a formal statement.
Following the financial crisis, when the banking sector came close to collapse, the new Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition government announced the sharpest cuts in public spending since the end of World War Two.
On Sunday, Lord King also reiterated criticism of central banks for failing to curb inflation which is now running at a 40-year high of 10.1%.
He said major central banks, including the Bank of England, had continued to "print money" - through a measure known as quantitative easing - to support their economies during Covid lockdowns. This, he said, had contributed to rising inflation.
Lord King was governor of the Bank of England between 2003 and 2013 during which time it launched quantitative easing. But he said there was a difference between that period when major economies were dealing with the global financial crisis and the impact of Covid lockdowns.
"...engaging in quantitative easing in 2009 was to stop the economy from going into another recession because the amount of money in the economy was going down," he said.
"Here in the last couple of years the amount of money in the economy has grown very rapidly and at a pace that was bound to lead to higher inflation."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63364240
 
Something the Tories will be counting on, since 2019 they've been a coalition of ukip, BNP, Brexit party, Britain first and others. Under FPTP a split vote would help them.
There may be agreements to vote tactically to get the Tories out though
Actually the swings at the moment are so huge that the Tories lose massively from FPTP - they're wiped out in any seat that is remotely marginal and pile up votes in just a few seats in Surrey etc. On the current average of the polls, they only get 2 more seats than the LibDems despite getting more than twice the votes, they may become converts to PR yet...

One of the mildly interesting aspects of the current scene is that the LibDems are actually doing pretty badly - I guess because the government is such a clusterTruss that they just get squeezed out of any coverage. They'll pick up a few seats in Surrey etc because the Tories are doing quite so badly, but they're not getting a look-in anywhere that Labour has a meaningful presence.
 

I wouldn't turn my back on him, either. The big spaffer!

But what's he up to? What's his little game then, Id like to know.

Don't trust the bugler as far as I could through him.

Not blown away with the fair Penelope, either, to tell the truth. Saw her on telly this morning and it was " Thanks for the interview. I'm not going to be drawn into answering any questions. Portsmouth rules, ok". Just the same as last time. No wonder she's only got have a handful of supporters.

Where's Gavin W when we need him? He'd be my choice. Never put a foot wrong has our Gavin.
 
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I wouldn't turn my back on him, either. The big spaffer!
But what's he up to? What's his little game then, Id like to know.
Don't trust the bugler as far as I could through him.
Strange that he has not officially thrown his hat in, i wonder if he is trying to work out if he can get the 100 so as not to embarrass himself if he does say he wants the job then doesn't get the 100.
 
It has been broadcast that Johnson hates losing, and won’t declare that he wants the job, until he is certain he has the minimum 100 backers.
 
In fairness, that's the smart move. If he doesn't have the numbers, he can support the favourite and hope to get a cabinet position.

He's spent his life waiting to see which way the crowd is running before rushing to the front and saying "follow me"
 
I personally would love to see him get the 100 backers. Especially if they had b@ll@cks to put their name behind him in the public domain.

If he gets to the final 2 against Sunak, then there is enough racists in the wider membership to make Johnson pm again.

Thereafter the privileges committee have had to extend the hearings, in November, into him lying in office. There’s a queue around the block to give evidence.

End of November should see him removed from office, and the Tories will be totally f@cked having now rejected Sunak twice.
 
I personally would love to see him get the 100 backers. Especially if they had b@ll@cks to put their name behind him in the public domain.

If he gets to the final 2 against Sunak, then there is enough racists in the wider membership to make Johnson pm again.

Thereafter the privileges committee have had to extend the hearings, in November, into him lying in office. There’s a queue around the block to give evidence.

End of November should see him removed from office, and the Tories will be totally f@cked having now rejected Sunak twice.
The only issue is the UKs economy is going down the tubes. Some of the outlooks are eye watering.
Ye need a stable and responsible government for everyone's sake.
 

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