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I enjoy the occasional bottling session from the FV but I'm thinking about bottling from corni kegs in future. I like the idea of conditioning in corni kegs and bottling bright beer to give to friends/family/take to bbqs etc.

I understand there's basically three options for maintaining condition:
1. Poor man's counter pressure bottle filler - probably about £10
2. Blichmann Beer gun - £55
3. Counter pressure bottle filler (can't find a UK supplier though) - £??

What would people recommend?

I did think about making my own counter pressure bottle filler but I'm a bit cackhanded when it comes to anything DIY related.

Jonny
 
I have a Blichman, and I get on well with it. I've used it to bottle direct from the FV using a syphon, I've also used it to bottle from a corny with uncarbonated primed beer. Very easy to do.

Where it comes unstuck is bottling very well carbonated bright beer. You have to ensure the beer is really really cold (as are the bottles), and let all the pressure off the beer. then apply just a few psi on the beer and filling the bottles is really slow . . . but it can be done and you can always cap on the foam (Which Is what commercial bottlers do).

A poor mans Blichman is 25ft of 3/16 beer line, and a very low pressure on the corny. Beer line to bottom, when bottle is full remove tube and insert into the next one . . . you loose a few drops of beer not anything to cry over though
 
Just used the Blichmann gun for the first time. It works very well, Hope and Grape have them in stock at the pre pound slump price.
 
I just fill mine up from the cornie and cap em. Usually only three or four and they get consumed within a few hours. If i'm going out for a fair drink i usually partially or fill a Demijohn. Only probs with DJ is that there's often not much space in fridges for them. :roll:
 
I used a poor mans beer gun a few days ago to fill 6 L of TC into 3x 2l PET bottles. Chilled it down to 5C and used about 5psi to push it throught the 3/16th tube. Worked a treat. 3 days later they open with the fizz of a bottle of blackthorn.... Marvelous. I might try it with some Hobgoblin clone next to see how beer does
 
Hmm, well, the things I ordered from BES arrived. Clearly I don't know what's what when it comes to plumbing bits as they don't entirely fit together how I imagined :oops:

When I get home I'll take some photos and post the design I was aiming for and maybe some kind soul can point me in the right direction for the various connectors etc I need :pray:
 
Counter Pressure Bottle Filler
Update!

I've built my own counter pressure bottle filler so I can bottle bright beer from my corni kegs. I couldn't find anywhere in the UK selling them (Beertech used to) so using various diagrams on the web I constructed this:
counter_pressure_bottle_filler.jpg


It's not quite a poor man's bottle filler, but not quite complete either as I've had trouble sourcing parts for pressure relief :roll:. I've done 10 bottles of stout with it so far and it's worked very well. There's little foaming when bottling and carbonation of the beer keeps well :D

Parts & Construction

2 x 1/4" BSPT x 3/8" John Guest push-fit connector - PI011202S - £3.00
2 x 1/4" BSP TF, FULL BORE BALL VALVE, GAS, LEVER HANDLE - 6121 - £6.20
3 x 1/4" PARALLEL NIPPLE, BSP MALE, Stainless Steel - 14460 - £14.02
1 x 10 mm COMP x 1/4" BSP PF, STRAIGHT ADAPTOR, UK - 6647 - £1.26
1 x 1/4" BSP F, EQUAL TEE, 316 S/S - 14305 - £1.46
1 x 12" length of 10mm stainless steel, acrylic, brass or copper tubing (I used acrylic) - £1.10
1 x Bottle bung/cork with bored hole - £0.20
1 x Roll of PTFE tape - £0.14

Total cost: £27.38 (Excl. delivery charges)

I could have probably saved a few quid by using a male threaded compression fitting instead of another nipple - but this was my first experience with purchasing/using plumbing equipment (previously clueless! :oops: ).

Very simple to construct, just ensure you wrap PTFE tape around all the threads. Thread the three nipples into the equal tee and thread the ball valves on each end. Put the compression fitting on to the bottom of the tee and fit the olive around your 1/4" tubing and thread the compression nut on.

Stick the JG fittings on each ball valve and push the bung up as high as the height of your bottles. Put it in an empty bottle, connect up your CO2 source and ensure you've got a gas-tight seal everywhere.

Operation

1. Sanitise and then chill all bottles, caps, bottle filler and beer line
2. Close both ball valves.
3. Fit the bottle filler into a bottle
4. Connect your CO2 source to one JG fitting, your beer line to the other. Set your CO2 regulator to 2-4 PSI.
5. Open the CO2 valve to pressurise the bottle. Work the bung to allow the oxygen to escape and flush the bottle
6. Allow the bottle to pressurise again and close the CO2 valve.
7. Open the beer valve and work the bung gently to release a gentle gush of pressure - beer should flow slowly.
8. When the bottle's full, close the beer valve and carefully remove the filler
9. Cap!

Future Improvements

Instead of working the bung to release the pressure, I'd like a second tee connected to a needle valve to release the pressure like this drawing. Having a few problems getting the right parts though :hmm:

Cheers :drink:
 
All I can say is :clap: :clap: :clap:

Excellent work and documentation! I can see this being a sticky somewhere :hmm:

I have no chance of doing anything like that, my DIY is awful (at best!) :)
 
Thanks chaps - don't make it a sticky quite yet, it still needs finishing off with a needle valve before it's worthy.

Wez, the hardest bit was working out what parts to buy, putting it together was exceptionally simple!
 
Having thought about this a bit more - I've decided not to bother with the extra bits to incorporate a seperate valve for pressure release. Why? Well I don't really bottle enough to warrant it at the moment.

On Wednesday I'll be bottling some more so I'll put together a quick video on its operation and you can see how easy/hard it is to use - By then I'm hoping to have grown a third arm to operate it ;)
 
Bottling didn't go to plan yesterday so no video yet :(

Off to Madrid for the weekend for my brother's stag do. Who knows what beer I'll be exposed to out there ;)

Bottling will commence on Monday with any luck. :cheers:
 
Have a great time JV :party:

Remember, what goes on in Madrid, stays in Madrid :grin: if that means cheating on English ales...so be it ;)
 
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