Why bother seperating mens and women's sports?

[Ken L]

All this grief over the "gender pay gap" in sports could easily be resolved by simply removing gender from completion, abolishing separate men's and women's records and allowing everybody to compete together.

No more hand wringing over the prize money at Wimbledon and having organisers put into the awkward position of trying to explain that women don't get paid as much because they don't play as long or as well or generate anything like the public interest and advertising revenue that the men's game does. Everyone just goes into the draw and we end up with a single winner.
Afterall, if the Williams sisters can do it, so can everybody else.

We are about to take a step towards this utopia with Gavin Hubbard favourite to win +90kg women's weightlifting gold at the Commonwealth Games.

Discuss...

 

[Clint]

Yeah great idea! I also contemplate the banning of performance enhancing drugs in sport...I think they should at least have a section where the competitors can take whatever they like just to see what they can push the records to.

 

[Ajhutch]

Who is hand wringing about prize money at Wimbledon? Prize money has been equal for 11 years at all the grand slams so presumably the people upset about the situation are those who don’t believe in equal prize money. I think it’s for them to justify their position.

 

[Ken L]

Yeah great idea! I also contemplate the banning of performance enhancing drugs in sport...I think they should at least have a section where the competitors can take whatever they like just to see what they can push the records to.

Ah, the wonderful world of performance enhancing drugs..

 

[Ken L]

Who is hand wringing about prize money at Wimbledon? Prize money has been equal for 11 years at all the grand slams so presumably the people upset about the situation are those who don’t believe in equal prize money. I think it’s for them to justify their position.

No it hasn't. The women are paid more per set.

 

[Ajhutch]

So they could make the scoring system the same. Fine for me.

 

[Ajhutch]

If you want me to use more precise language, absolute prize money has been the same at grand slams for 11 years. Those who don’t like this have to justify their position. At the time, the argument about shorter womens’ matches was made, and it was rejected by the people who made the decision.

 

[Saisonator]

I like the idea, that’s true equality.

 

[marshbrewer]

Joking aside, will this not have to happen soon, effectively, if people can self identify their gender?

 

[Ken L]

Joking aside, will this not have to happen soon, effectively, if people can self identify their gender?

Either that or we make a break for the surface of the sea of SJW BS and take a life saving breth of common sense.

 

[BeerCat]

Yeah great idea! I also contemplate the banning of performance enhancing drugs in sport...I think they should at least have a section where the competitors can take whatever they like just to see what they can push the records to.

Good idea, the caners event.

 

[marshbrewer]

Either that or we make a break for the surface of the sea of SJW BS and take a life saving breth of common sense.

But, seriously for a moment, politics aside, with gender reassignment and things, and pre and post op and all that; no discrimination etc etc, there will surely have to be just one class of competition, no?

I admit to not fully understanding the whole subject.

 

[Ajhutch]

But, seriously for a moment, politics aside, with gender reassignment and things, and pre and post op and all that; no discrimination etc etc, there will surely have to be just one class of competition, no?

I admit to not fully understanding the whole subject.

It will have to be thought about, and there’ll probably be studies commissioned into the performance abilities of trans men and women relative to cis men and women, whether reassignment made a difference to performance, and whether it would promote reasonable competition or not. I can imagine a few years of arguments and upset athletes until there’s enough data to make a reasonable decision.

 

[Gunge]

All this trans gender, 'am I a boy or a girl?' cobblers again. No wonder sport is ****ed, let alone society.

 

[Saisonator]

The only problem that I can foresee is that feminists / cultural Marxists will not be satisfied with teams of mixed sex being picked for ability alone.
There will have to be quotas so that each team will have to have 50/50 men and women or 45/45/10 for trans nonsense.

 

[Ken L]

But, seriously for a moment, politics aside, with gender reassignment and things, and pre and post op and all that; no discrimination etc etc, there will surely have to be just one class of competition, no?

I admit to not fully understanding the whole subject.

I don't actually care if someone has elected to go through a split and tuck, left their nads in a kidney bowel, had breast implants and calls themselves "Laurel", they are still a man.
It's written into the DNA in every cell in their body and it has been phenotypically expressed in terms of skeleton, muscle mass and brain development throughout their lives - they are a man.

I suspect that we are going to see a few years of hand wringing as a result of all the PC idiocy and there probably will be a period where women are effectively excluded from sport because they will find themselves competing against men.
But then, common sense will snap back and we will go back to saying that if you have two X chromosomes, you play "women's" sport and if you have an X and a Y, you play men's sport.
There will of course be a tiny number of people who don't fit either category (Turner's syndrome comes to mind) and just as with the mentally ill "trans" athletes, someone will have to have the balls to stand up to them and point out that while they are welcome to participate in sport, they are excluded from competition - and then hand them a Kleenex.

Expect boos when "Laurel" climbs the podium.

I can't wait for some mid to upper level male tennis player to have a little fun in the twilight of their career and decide to "identify" as a woman for a year or so and win every woman's tournament on the circuit.

 

[MickDundee]

Yeah great idea! I also contemplate the banning of performance enhancing drugs in sport...I think they should at least have a section where the competitors can take whatever they like just to see what they can push the records to.

Isn't that just cycling and strongman now anyway?

 

[marshbrewer]

I didn't understand the Laural references then this popped up on my twitter feed. Interesting.

It might just end up simpler to have single mixed sex competition and be done with it.

 

[Ken L]

Well, that's over with - until the next time.

 

[Ajhutch]

Ouch, weightlifter injuries look so painful!