what will this be like

[steve963]

thinking of making 70L using 6kg marris, otter upto 5kg of honey, 750kg torrifed wheat and 300g cascade hops

do you think the cascade will be wasted with that amount of honey?

would i be best saving the cascade for a all malt beer?

 

[Wendy1971]

If your making 70 litres you will need a bigger grain bill that yours. We use that amount of grain to make 25 litres

 

[steve963]

not with 5KG of honey though!

with 0 honey i would use 12.5kgs but with 5kg of honey it works out at 7.8% :shock:

 

[Wendy1971]

Yeah your right didnt see the amount

 

[Runwell-Steve]

I can't really see what you are aiming for.

That is a lot of honey to be using though for the volume of beer you are producing.

Do you actually know how much sugar is in the honey, the water content of honey varies greatly so unless you have tested it, a bit of pot luck will be involved in knowing mow well it will ferment.

On the subject of fermenting, there are no amino acids in honey that yeast needs in order to grow, so you may want to add some yeast nutrient.

The honey will give you a powerful aroma, and a very strong sweet flavour, you will need to use a lot of hops to provide the bitterness to counterbalance this.

 

[steve963]

just want a beer that definitely tastes of honey used 1-1.5kg per 70L before and didnt taste massively of honey, think i would be better going for 2kg`s this time then to see how it turns out. its honey straight from the hive also...

just dont know whether the honey will overpower the cascade, as was thinking about 80grams at boil, then the 220grams over the last 10 mins,

something like this

New Recipe


Recipe Specs
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Batch Size (L): 69.0
Total Grain (kg): 10.500
Total Hops (g): 300.00
Original Gravity (OG): 1.041 (°P): 10.2
Final Gravity (FG): 1.007 (°P): 1.8
Alcohol by Volume (ABV): 4.39 %
Colour (SRM): 4.0 (EBC): 7.9
Bitterness (IBU): 33.4 (Average)
Brewhouse Efficiency (%): 83
Boil Time (Minutes): 90

Grain Bill
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8.000 kg Maris Otter Malt (76.19%)
2.000 kg Honey (19.05%)
0.500 kg Torrified Wheat (4.76%)

Hop Bill
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80.0 g Cascade Leaf (7.6% Alpha) @ 90 Minutes (Boil) (1.2 g/L)
50.0 g Cascade Leaf (7.6% Alpha) @ 10 Minutes (Boil) (0.7 g/L)
70.0 g Cascade Leaf (7.6% Alpha) @ 5 Minutes (Boil) (1 g/L)
100.0 g Cascade Leaf (7.6% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Boil) (1.4 g/L)

Misc Bill
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Single step Infusion at 66°C for 60 Minutes.
Fermented at 20°C with Safale S-04


Recipe Generated with BrewMate

 

[user 2461]

Steve-o,

Like the idea of the honey ale :thumb: . Never brewed one myself but its on my list of things to do. I have a recipe from 'The Homebrewers Garden' book.

Its a US book so the recipe is for 19l but its puts it like this

227g toasted malt
227g Wheat
454g Crystal (light)
1.3kg Klages pale malt
908g Munich malt
1.3kg honey

At those ratio's its somthing like 7kg of honey for 70L

the recipe also uses basil which at end of boil which sounds cheeky.

Good luck,

Vman

 

[Aleman]

What you are really brewing is a metheglin (Ale mead) although that are usually flavoured with herbs etc rather than hops.

As an ale it will be thin low bodied and as alcoholic as crap, and as a beer will be completely unbalanced with that level of hopping. . . .fermentation problems aside due to the low FAN content . . . rethink this . . brew it as a metheglin with fewer hops

 

[steve963]

ok have rethought this

made 95% marris otter, 5% torrified wheat, 300g of cascade, 1040 pale ale, with s04 and us05 FV`s

pitced at 26degrees at 7pm, by next morning it was at 23 degrees and next day 1012 at 22 degrees

so fermented real quick, hope wasnt too hot! smells lovely and quite tasty too

will use my mates honey for a metheglin then, might do 1 demi first
maybe use the rest for a honey lemon beer