Videne as no-rinse sanitiser

[jonewer]

Hi all,

Does anyone have experience of using Videne as a no-rinse? Does it work? What the best regime to use?

Thanks.

 

[sueelleker]

If it's the same Videne we use in hospital, it's iodine based. wouldn't have thought it would do your brew much good.

 

[Muddydisco]

Don't know if it can be used as a no rinse possibly in low ratio's to water. I have always done 10ml to 5ltr and a rinse to be sure. Plenty of people use it in brewing, I'm sure one of the others might know...

 

[dandan]

I use Videne when bottleing I put it into a plant sprayer thing(1.25ml of Videne per ltr of water) and use it as no rinse

This is the cheapest i've found it and its about a pound cheaper than the chemists (who have to have it specially delivered)

MAKE SURE ITS THE ANTISEPTIC ONE THAT YOU USE

 

[llannige]

Use it for all my brewing related tasks.It's top stuff. :thumb:

Try adding a touch of citric acid to it as it will help prolong it's lifespan.

 

[jonewer]

Use it for all my brewing related tasks.It's top stuff. :thumb:

Try adding a touch of citric acid to it as it will help prolong it's lifespan.

Thanks, how do you use it? in what dilution?

 

[Wez]

Videne user here, 1.25ml in 1L water (5ml per 4L easier to remember) always works :thumb:

Cheapy cheapy too :

Also handy for any home surgery you may want to do....... :shock: :? :lol:

 

[corby_brewer]

im a youngs sanitiser user me, it only takes me about 2.1/2 hours to sanitise 40 bottles. :clap:

 

[A T]

im a youngs sanitiser user me, it only takes me about 2.1/2 hours to sanitise 40 bottles. :clap:

I could do yours and mine in that time and stop for a couple of pints and a chat

 

[Wez]

Bottling can take a long time - DS is that from start to finish - FV to capped bottled or just to clean & sterilise?

 

[corby_brewer]

Bottling can take a long time - DS is that from start to finish - FV to capped bottled or just to clean & sterilise?

clean & sterilise wez, i soak batches of 10 bottles in a old FV for 1/2 hour each batch, then rince in cold water twice.

 

[llannige]

I soak my bottles overnight in a very large bucket filled with a weak thin bleach solution.In the morning a quick rinse through a bottle washer,then spray with Videne job done.
Takes no time at all on bottling day. :thumb:

 

[llannige]

Use it for all my brewing related tasks.It's top stuff. :thumb:

Try adding a touch of citric acid to it as it will help prolong it's lifespan.

Thanks, how do you use it? in what dilution?

1/2 to 1 tsp in 5-10L water/videne and give it a good stir.:thumb:

 

[Spring Heeled jim]

I'm confused.

If Videne is designed to speed things up by removing the need to rinse, why do some people steep bottles in the likes of thin bleach and then rinse before using Videne?

 

[Parva]

I'm confused.

If Videne is designed to speed things up by removing the need to rinse, why do some people steep bottles in the likes of thin bleach and then rinse before using Videne?

Videne only removes bugs that we cannot physically see that sit on surfaces, it cannot remove say small yeast deposits and the like. Bleach / Oxyclean / soda crystals etc each have properties that can remove stubborn stuff that sticks to surfaces that we can't easily get to. I use a no-rinse Videne solution with my kegs and it works great but it's important to understand that it only kills bugs on a clean surface and is of no use killing bugs on a surface that isn't clean in the first place.

Think of a tea stained cup. A bleach solution will remove that stain and once properly rinsed, a Videne solution will sanitise it. However, if you jumped straight to the Videne solution and didn't bleach it in the first place then the tea stained cup is still tea stained and that stain may harbour nasties. Well ok, maybe that's extreme, I dare say it's more likely with particulates than a mere stain but nevertheless, you get the idea I hope.

For what it's worth I give my cornie kegs a scrub with warm water and washing-up liquid, rinse well and then give them the Videne solution treatment. I rarely remove and sanitise the posts or dip-tubes either. Lucky? Maybe, I dunno but I've yet to have an infected brew.

 

[jonewer]

Could you use a spot of vinegar instead of citric acid?

 

[llannige]

Could you use a spot of vinegar instead of citric acid?

Sorry don't know the answer to that one.Not sure about the chemical reaction :hmm:

 

[Parva]

Could you use a spot of vinegar instead of citric acid?

No, vinegar is not citric acid in any way, shape or form (it's acetic acid iirc). Besides, vinegar is what we're trying to sanitise against turning our beer into, why would you sanitise with it. I personally don't even bother with the citric acid anyway and it works fine for me.

 

[Aleman]

The purpose of adding a small amount of acid to the videne solution is that it enhances the storage life of the solution . . . it is usual to use phosphoric acid, but lactic, citric or acetic could be used . . . the only real issue with these two is that they do have distinct taste profiles, and if you use too much there is the possibility of contaminating your beer. . . . I personally think its so cheap that I now make a fresh solution up each time, rather than storing the working strength solution for any period of time.

FWIW you can also increase the storage lifetime by making it up with distilled or deionised water

 

[Parva]

Totally agree with making a fresh batch up each time. I've used my 500ml bottle of Videne for over 12 months now for dozens of FV's and kegs and I still have half a bottle left and it only cos £4.29 for the bottle. :)