Ubbe or Lutra Kveik

[Keruso]

Anyone tried WHC labs Ubbe Kveik or Omega Lutra Kveik? Both are meant to be clean and neutral with larger like character, usual ultra fast fermentation at Kveik temperatures. Be good to hear experiences of sing either.

 

[xozzx]

Are you planning on using it for a lager? I have been looking at Ubbe and also Krispy yeasts to make a lager under pressure and at room temp. Im also keen to hear what others think.

 

[An Ankoù]

I've got a sachet of Ubbe lurking in fridge at the moment. I, too, would like to know what experience people have had with this one. Unfortunately we've just entered an Ice Age here in sunny Brittany with outdoor temperatures of 13C this morning. I might get some proper lager yeast out!

@Brewnaldo has this to say in the Kveik thread Kveik and subsequent posts.

 

[Keruso]

Are you planning on using it for a lager? I have been looking at Ubbe and also Krispy yeasts to make a lager under pressure and at room temp. Im also keen to hear what others think.

I am planning a recipe found on BYO magazine size, “A departure for a brewery known for its lagers, this groundbreaking hazy IPA, designed for Urban Chestnut’s tenth anniversary, uses the best of Old World brewing tradition and modern craft innovation, and is brewed using 100% German hops and kveik yeast”

 

[Keruso]

I've got a sachet of Ubbe lurking in fridge at the moment. I, too, would like to know what experience people have had with this one. Unfortunately we've just entered an Ice Age here in sunny Brittany with outdoor temperatures of 13C this morning. I might get some proper lager yeast out!

@Brewnaldo has this to say in the Kveik thread Kveik and subsequent posts.

Very useful thanks

 

[Matt_W]

I used the Ubbe for a galaxy smash a month ago and I wasn’t impressed.

Compared to the citra smash I did with voss earlier in the year it wasn’t as crisp and didn’t clear up very well.

Put it this way I didn’t bother harvesting the yeast when I was finished.

 

[An Ankoù]

Interesting.
My favourite is still Opshaug. I had a six week old bottle of my take on Morton's Totally Tropical last night and, while the style isn't my cup of tea, I have to admit it was everything I could have expected. But it needs the time in the bottle to come together and so does the stuff I've made with Voss.

 

[Keruso]

Interesting.
My favourite is still Opshaug. I had a six week old bottle of my take on Morton's Totally Tropical last night and, while the style isn't my cup of tea, I have to admit it was everything I could have expected. But it needs the time in the bottle to come together and so does the stuff I've made with Voss.

Interesting, it seems whitelabs Opshaug, WHC Ubbe and Omega Lutra all claim to be the clean more neutral pseudo lager yeast. I guess you mean the whitelabs yeast? Out of interest did you make a starter ? Target OG for this beer I intend to make is 1.068 which would require a 3 litre starter using traditional yeast like WLP001.

 

[An Ankoù]

Interesting, it seems whitelabs Opshaug, WHC Ubbe and Omega Lutra all claim to be the clean more neutral pseudo lager yeast. I guess you mean the whitelabs yeast? Out of interest did you make a starter ? Target OG for this beer I intend to make is 1.068 which would require a 3 litre starter using traditional yeast like WLP001.

Yes, Whitelabs. No. I didn't make a starter as I wasn't especially hoping for a completely neutral flavour and you can pitch kveik short. I didn't know it was the same strain as Ubbe, though. I wouldn't have bought the Ubbe if I'd known.

 

[jamow]

I just kegged a beer made with a fresh pack of Ubbe.
MO 6.5kg. Munich 1kg. FWH Columbus 15g.
1.047 to 1.009 in 4 days.
Flocc’d out very well. I cold crashed anyway.
Pre keg sample was very very clear and tasted good with a clean bitterness.
No particular “Ale” type flavours.
Jury is out currently; after I put 30g Saaz in the keg.
Now it looks like a NEIPA and tastes fruity with no bite

 

[Brewnaldo]

I've got a sachet of Ubbe lurking in fridge at the moment. I, too, would like to know what experience people have had with this one. Unfortunately we've just entered an Ice Age here in sunny Brittany with outdoor temperatures of 13C this morning. I might get some proper lager yeast out!

@Brewnaldo has this to say in the Kveik thread Kveik and subsequent posts.

Just to follow this up for the sake of the OP, the bottle I had was slightly fruity. However, the kegged stuff was much cleaner than the bottle conditioned stuff, which, I suspect is beginning to clean up a bit in conditioning.

I probably need a week or two more to say whether the ester flavours are subsiding. However, if the OP would like a tiny wee bit more info on Ubbe, I did get an email reply from WHC about the esters which I posted on the CML yeasts thread.

The only other thing I can add is that I currently have a second batch of Ubbe carbing up in combo of keg/bottles so I might have more to say on the matter shortly.

 

[jamow]

Here’s a picture of the Saaz keg hopped Ubbe fermented beer. It tastes good and has quite a crisp lager like finish to it.

 

[jamow]

I have also just kegged some more Ubbe fermented beer. Pilsner Malt and Munich. Columbus for bittering. Late additions of Mosaic and Rakau. OG 1.052 6 days ago. FG 1.005 2 days ago! I cold crashed and kegged today. The fermenter sample tastes good. Has that slight Kveik flavour but not powerfully. The other half of the brew is still fermenting with Edinburgh ale yeast.

 

[Brewnaldo]

What temp did you ferment at?

 

[jamow]

I pitched at 20degC and set the inkbird for 32. It ramped up over a couple of days but was visibly fermenting already at about 16hours post pitch when at 26C

 

[Brewnaldo]

I intend to lower it a good bit next time I use it. Maybe full ferment at mid 20s. I think 35 produced too much yeast flavour for what I wanted.

 

[jamow]

I pitched most of the slurry from my first brew with it. I had made sure it was quite active by feeding it with 100g/1 litre of spraymalt as a starter. It was definitely quite active already at the mid 20’s range. I’d be interested to hear how it goes

 

[Northern_Brewer]

General impression seems to be that the "lager kveiks" are "good enough" for most people but not the most picky, so it depends a bit on how sensitive you are to off-flavours. See eg the HBT thread on Bootleg Biology's Oslo, which allegedly is the ..."inspiration"... for WHC Ubbe.

But if you're interested in this kind of thing, be aware that many ordinary lager yeasts, in particular 34/70 + clones and the somewhat better flocculating Mangrove Jack M54 Californian, will be similarly "good enough for most people" at say 18°C ambient. See the HBT warm-fermented lager thread, I'd try them first and see how you get on, you may save yourself a few quid.

 

[AdeDunn]

I have some Omega Lutra waiting in the fridge for my next brew day, which will be very soon. Just need to get my Orange infused cascade pale ale bottled first...

 

[jamow]

The Kveik “Lager”
Turned out well.