suffolkbeer
Regular.
Anyone seen a clone recipe for St Peters without? It’s an alcohol free beer (sorry).
St Peters ‘without’????
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I don't think you can home-brew alcohol-free beer: I believe all commercial alcohol-free beer is brewed with alcohol and then the alcohol is removed by industrial processes.
suffolkbeer
Regular.
I’m sure you’re correct in a lot of cases. St. Peter’s brews theirs differently though. I was on a tour last summer and the guide told us it was to do with attenuation and other factors (no de-acoholising)
IainM
Landlord.
Right, so the only way to make alcohol free "beer" without removing alcohol is by not creating alcohol in the first place, so without fermentation. Basically, make wort, boil with hops to counteract the sweetness, and then bottle without fermenting it. I would either not use base malt or use it sparingly, as that will give you a lot of sweetness compared to flavour if you don't ferment. Instead, try to get aroma/body from speciality grains. Can't be more helpful than that I'm afraid, as I've never tried the beer or attempted anything like this. I can't imagine many others on here have either. Looking at the Nanny State recipe in the free BrewDog DIYDog book might have some pointers, but I can't stand the stuff.
Saisonator
Landlord.
My wife has had a few different ones recently due to being pregnant.
I found Nanny State the best of a bad bunch, but it does have 0.5% alcohol.
She had Erdringer which I think is 0% and that tastes like a slightly hoppy unfermented wort, it is even marketed as an energy drink.
I think the St Peters would be much the same.
I found Nanny State the best of a bad bunch, but it does have 0.5% alcohol.
She had Erdringer which I think is 0% and that tastes like a slightly hoppy unfermented wort, it is even marketed as an energy drink.
I think the St Peters would be much the same.
Sadfield
Landlord.
Looking at the stated ingredients (Water, Rye, Barley, Hops, Yeast), my guess is its going to be a hybrid of Kvass and Ale, brewed to a very low abv using unmalted Rye and crystal malts. With less alcohol to remove, they probably heat or filter via reverse osmosis, in a shorter, less detrimental process than would happen with a standard zero alcohol beer.
The common process is to heat whilst using a vacuum pump to lower pressure, and as a result the boiling point of alcohol. If St Peters claim they don't do this, I would think they at least filter the alcohol out. Some form of fermentation would need to be done, purely to get the flavour correct as that is where the bulk of flavour is developed. Wort going into an fv, doesn't taste of beer.
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The common process is to heat whilst using a vacuum pump to lower pressure, and as a result the boiling point of alcohol. If St Peters claim they don't do this, I would think they at least filter the alcohol out. Some form of fermentation would need to be done, purely to get the flavour correct as that is where the bulk of flavour is developed. Wort going into an fv, doesn't taste of beer.
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Try Big Drop Pale Ale (https://www.bigdropbrew.com/) which is the best non-alcohol beer I've ever had.
Saisonator
Landlord.
Where abouts did you buy that?
I found it in a local pub one lunchtime, when I was on driving duty. There are a few places you can buy it online and various shops and pubs around the country that sell it - there's a "where to buy" link on the website.
Saisonator
Landlord.
Yes cheers I just saw that, there is an outlet near me, my wife likes stout and Big Drop stout gets really good reviews. I will drop in there on Friday.
I've not tried that one and don't know anyone else who has given any of the Big Drop beers a proper tasting, so would be interested to hear how you get on with it and any others you buy!
LarryF
Brew Numpty
. Why would anyone do such a thing as make 0% Erdinger, it's just plain wrong.
Did you get any of the Big Drop Stout in the end?
