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I found a very simple recipe on the website of an AG Kit Producer/Supplier (Hops2brew) Will it work or is it just too simple?


Thanks

stacer
 
Thats the one - I am a newcomer to AG Brewing and I don't want to waste my time and money if it won't work.

Thanks

stacer
 
Sorry, I couldn't add more before, the boss was on the prowl.

Welcome to the forum :cheers:


As to my personal opinion of that recipe: :lol: :lol: :lol: :rofl:
 
I take it from that that its a bit of a joke!!
Is that because of the small amount of water for mashing/boiling or is the whole recipe just rubbish?

stacer
 
Sorry, I'm trying to find some useful “How To” guides for AG beginners but it's tricky for me at the moment.

I don't know what weight of grain those box brews come with, but the steep and sparge instructions are faintly ludicrous.

Come on guys, help me out here.
 
The grains provided are:

3kg Maris Otter + 500g Crystal Malt

100g of the hops of your choice + an unspecified beer yeast.

I have bought a 27l Boiler with a temperature range which can be set between 30 and 100 degrees C
and I had hoped to mash and boil using the same vessel by draining the wort into an intermediate vessel, sparing then returning the wort to the boiler for the rolling boil etc.

stacer
 
Why don't you try BIAB?

One thing in that recipe that I don't think is good advice is to put the FV in the airing cupboard. Risks being far too warm.
 
Thanks for that, I guess with the boiler i've bought I can adjust the quantities to suit - just have to persuade the wife top make the bag!!

stacer
 
Here's my second attempt at BIAB. Even better if you actually posess a bag!
viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39236
I've done 3 now. What I've found so far is don't forget the irish moss to clear it. You inevitably get some break material comiong through and that seems to clear it up nicely. My advice is go for it. It's far more involved than extract brewing but if you're methodical and prepared it's not really harder. It's cheaper too. I'm just fermenting in the house now so temperatures are a good level. I'll try to do something in the summer to help with temp. control.
 
3.5kg of grain is just about enough for a 5 gallon brew but those instructions are suggesting a 30 minute mash in a small volume of water and then a flush through with cold water. That's not sparging and you aren't going to get all of the sugars out of the grain. The mash time should ideally be 60-90 minutes in a far greater volume of water and then the sparge needs to be 10° hotter than the mash.

If you've got a boiler then I won't bother looking out the “Back to Basics” topics as BIAB is probably the way for you to go.

What is your background? Have you brewed kits and are looking to take a step forward?
 
You don't need a bag. I just use a piece of voile and it works fine in my 40L Buffalo boiler.

That website only sells Munton's Gervin English Ale yeast so that'll be the yeast in their kits. Apart from that, all their products seem expensive. Website's a bit rubbish too!
 
Thanks everyone for taking the trouble to give me advice.
My background is that I have made quite a number of Kits over the last few years and although they have generally produced quite acceptable results, they have all had a fairly distinct "homebrew" flavour. I have just bottled a Wherry but then decided that I wanted to try and make something closer to the commercial Real Ales, hence looking at the possibility of AG brewing.

As a matter of interest, in there early 70's Geordie made dry ingredients kits where the grain, hops etc were just boiled in a saucepan, strained and put in a bucket with the yeast. I made one of these which although it looked appalling when fermented was absolutely excellent after 6-8 weeks in a bottle. I didn't have a clue what I was doing, had no kit at all but somehow I managed to produce an excellent beer.

stacer
 
Moley said:
those instructions are suggesting a 30 minute mash in a small volume of water and then a flush through with cold water.
They're not describing mashing but rather steeping of speciality grains. Not sure where the fermentables come from as I can't see what comes in 'the box'. That said, it is all pretty rubbish and I'd steer well clear. Have a read of the How To's posted above and you'll get a much better idea of what you need to do.
 
jonnymorris said:
They're not describing mashing but rather steeping of speciality grains. Not sure where the fermentables come from as I can't see what comes in 'the box'.
Have a look at this example. It includes 3kg of Marris Otter Ground Malt Barley so it definitely needs a mash and not just a steep.
 
Agreed, it needs mashing and yet the instructions describe steeping. It ain't going to work very well if you follow those instructions.
 
Has anyone got 3kg of pale malt they don't mind wasting to test what OG is likely? Or can someone work this out in Beersmith or similar?
 

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