shepherd neame clones ??

[loady]

I love quite a few shepherd neam beers, my faves are late red, whitstable bay, kents best, master brew..does anyone know of any clone recipes or similar beer recipes ?

Thanks.

 

[Good Ed]

here's a recipe for Spitfire, never done it though

http://www.thehomebrewsite.org.uk/homebrew-recipes/real-ale-recipes/clone-spitfire-recipe.htm

 

[Cpt.Frederickson]

All their main beers are pale and crystal in various combinations with no other malts (their pilot brewery is the only one that uses anything extra) and the usual english hops (ekg mostly). Most important is the yeast so try culturing from 1698 bottles or ask brewlab. I had good success with WY1099 recently in a spitfire clone too.

 

[IPA]

All their main beers are pale and crystal in various combinations with no other malts (their pilot brewery is the only one that uses anything extra) and the usual english hops (ekg mostly). Most important is the yeast so try culturing from 1698 bottles or ask brewlab. I had good success with WY1099 recently in a spitfire clone too.

I don't think so! That smoky taste comes from somewhere. Try this one it's a dead ringer. It' for a 50L brewlength so halve everything for 25L

SPITFIRE

Date:

Gyle Number:

Fermentable Colour lb: oz Grams Ratio
Pale Malt 7 EBC 16 lbs. 8.5 oz 7500 grams 75%
Amber Malt 60 EBC 1 lbs. 1.6 oz 500 grams 5%
Crystal Malt 130 EBC 1 lbs. 12.1 oz 800 grams 8%
Wheat Malt 3.5 EBC 0 lbs. 14.0 oz 400 grams 4%
Torrefied Wheat 4 EBC 1 lbs. 12.1 oz 800 grams 8%


Hop Variety Type Alpha Time lb: oz grams Ratio
Target Whole 11.4 % 90 mins 0 lbs. 2.1 oz 60 grams 54.5%
Golding Whole 5.7 % 90 mins 0 lbs. 1.1 oz 30 grams 27.3%
Golding Whole 5.7 % 15 mins 0 lbs. 0.7 oz 20 grams 18.2%


Final Volume: 50 Litres
Original Gravity: 1.048
Final Gravity: 1.012
Alcohol Content: 4.7% ABV
Total Liquor: 68 Litres
Mash Liquor: 25 Litres
Mash Efficiency: 82 %
Bitterness: 45.6297066603076 EBU
Colour: 31 EBC

 

[Cpt.Frederickson]

All their main beers are pale and crystal in various combinations with no other malts (their pilot brewery is the only one that uses anything extra) and the usual english hops (ekg mostly). Most important is the yeast so try culturing from 1698 bottles or ask brewlab. I had good success with WY1099 recently in a spitfire clone too.

I don't think so! That smoky taste comes from somewhere.

On the contrary, from amongst my long hours of research (into Spitfire in particular) I came across this little gem; see here.
It may be worth emailing them yourself (I found them very helpful, Stewart Tricker is a decent bloke and they even gave me obscure info such as the seeding rate for 1698!) but that isn't to say that that recipe won't get anywhere close. If that's the Real Ale Almanac one (looks like it) its pretty good. My most recent effort (3rd go at it) was even closer but the yeast is definitely key as I say.
On my next attempt I'm going to try out the pale/crystal combination and I'm pretty certain it will do the job. Why would I think this? I routinely taste the resultant 'beer' from my starters, and when I cultured from 1698, that SN flavour was definitely there, and was significantly noticeable when compared to tastings from other starters.

Back to the OP's question, I can only reassert my suggestion that you try some combinations out, but most importantly...YEAST (and have fun of course). Plug some info into some brewing software and do a bit of researching (you can even get good hints from SN's own site) and emailing to the brewery and you'll be able to brew some decent SN style beers.

Best of luck!
D.

 

[IPA]

Quote: "Why they use malt sirup is beyond me" Unquote

Hi Captain
Perhaps there is amber malt in it!
Anyway I am going to meet a hop farmer who supplies S&N at the beginning of July and I will ask him to try and find out the truth. Top marks by the way for spotting the origin of the recipe. I can remember when they used open fermenters at S&N and I still have a beermug given to me by one of the three brothers. It used to be a really quaint company where the staff addressed the owners by their christian name prefixed by Mr . I bet that has all changed now. In those days Whitbread had a brewery almost opposite.

 

[Cpt.Frederickson]

I was thinking about the 'malt syrup' thing t'other day and as suggested on the thread, probably a cheapener. But then I thought, do they parti-gyle and then use this to adjust the OG?
Probably not, but possible. Or they're just tight b*stards!
I fondly remember Whitbread (former employee) and it is a realm shame that half of the historic hop sites (such as Whitbread's old hop farm) are now nothing more than children's fairgrounds with nothing made of the heritage of the place.
Ah well.

 

[IPA]

Hi Captain
While we are walking down memory lane I thought I would show you the beermug that Mr Neame gave me thirty years ago and I have yet to drink out of it!

http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/Lastf ... f.jpg.html