Safale S-04 Fermentation Question

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Jimbo75

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Hi all,

I have recently moved over to the dark side and am now on my second AG brew. The first went well.....in the end and produced a really good The Rev James clone ale which I was over the moon with. My second one was brewed last week on a mini pilot brewery I put together that will produce between 2 and 4 gallons in separate single gallon demi johns. I did this in order to experiment with different recipes in small batches - dry hopping, different primary ferment lengths, different yeasts etc.

Anyway, enough of all the preamble my real question is on the fermentation characteristics of Safale S-04. I used it for the first time on this brew and am not sure if it is progressing as it should! The brew went well I think:

Mash
1.6kg Pale Malt - Mashed for 90 minutes with 4 lts strike water @ 76 degrees and achieved an initial mash temp of 66.1. Dropped to 65.2 after 90 mins.

Sparge
Did a batch sparge with 8 lts 86 degree liquor. Grain temp increased to 77 degrees and managed 81% efficiency.

Boil
Boiled for 90 mins with Centennial and Cascade for bittering and more Cascade for aroma at 15 minutes.

Crash cooled with a plate chiller to 22 degrees and ran off 9 lts of wort split equally between 2 demi-johns. Pitched 3g dry Safale S-04 into each demi-john.

Within 3 hours the light brown krausen started to form and within 8 hours it was covering the wort and producing bubbles through each of the air locks. The ferment seemed fairly vigorous to me with bubbles coming through at a rate of 1 every 2-3 seconds for a few days. Then it gradually slowed to where now the bubbles are approx 1 every 1-2 minutes.

However, whilst the krausen formed very fast and the ferment seemed to me quite vigorous it never turned into a foamy rocky head that I have had with other yeasts. At one point I saw some white foam below the surface (easy to see this through a glass demi-john) but it never broke through and subsided within a day or two. The head remains 1-1.5 cm thick and still looks just as it did at the start of the ferment - pale brown and lumpy (a bit like chocolate mouse). It is currently on day 7 of primary fermentation.

So my question is, has anyone else had a similar experience with Safale S-04 or any other yeasts? Is this evidence of a slow ferment or something else? I'll take a hydro reading in the next day or two but I need to get a new turkey baster as it's a bugger getting samples out of the demi-johns!

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated!

Cheers!
 
Sounds like your ferment is going fine. All yeasts are different and even the same yeast in a different brew is different so don't worry. Leave it alone till about day 10 and then check the SG. I usually leave mine for 2 weeks and then rack for another week or two then keg/bottle. :thumb:
 
Nice one. Many thanks for the reply Bob. I'll leave it a few days more and test.

Cheers.
 
I used S-04 for the first time last week and had a similar unnerving experience. I was worried about the thick crust of yeast on top and ended up syphoning the beer into a secondary FV once the SG was stable at the target FG (I scooped the top layer off with a sterilised spoon).

I hindsight I should have probably just left it in the primary, but hopefully it will help me get a cleaner beer for bottling.
 
I've used S-04 in 3 AG brews now and this sounds quite normal. The yeast head doesn't really last and after 48hrs it starts to look like a bottom fermenting yeast. Apparently it's not a true top-worker in the purest sense.
 
Thanks evanvine. I was wondering why stuff was clinging to the glass. When you say "they need some attention" what do you mean?
 
Ah so it's likely my cleaning and sanitisation wasn't as good as it should have been. :oops:

Thanks evanvine I'll need to work harder on that....

I'll post a couple more pics in few days when I think the ferment has finally finished and the yeast drops out.

Cheers
 

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