safale 04 and/or Notty

[johnny_dove]

25 liters in the fermenter. 1056 FG. One pack of Safale-04 enough? Don't have it localy so can't run and buy more...Should throw in a pack of Notty aswell?

 

[graysalchemy]

One packet should be fine. I usually use 2 for 60L so one should be more than adequate. :thumb:

 

[Andyhull]

Hi Gray

What size boiler/mashtun do you use for a 60ltr brew?

Andy

 

[hairybiker]

One pack will be fine, he** 1/2 a pack would be fine.

I normally brew in the 1045-55 range (@24-5L) and only use 1/2 a pack and then reuse the yeast for a second brew, getting 4 brews from one packet.

 

[Baz Chaz]

spoken like a true Scotsman :lol:

I've just got a brew on this morning, the mash tuns wrapped up cosy like a newborn child

 

[mattrickl06]

I would say it will be plenty - i used two packs of S04 in my recent first AG of 27l and it had fully fermented in 3 days - much to quick i would say :grin:

 

[johnny_dove]

That's great guys! Thanks. Undershot my saccarification temp. A little less body than I had planned for. It may just be a good thing since I have been using a lot of munich and 8% caramel malt. Making an IPA with centennial, chinook and cascade. Came out with 1045 pre boil and around 40 litres in the pot after pulling my biab bag. Will be a lot of beer.

QUESTION: I have 25 % pilsner malt in there. 90 minute boil needed or should 70 suffice?

Cheers,

Johan

 

[johnny_dove]

Came out something like this:

BeerSmith 2 Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Johnny Dove's APA
Brewer: JD
Asst Brewer:
Style: American Pale Ale
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30,0)

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 38,24 l
Post Boil Volume: 32,24 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 29,00 l
Bottling Volume: 26,00 l
Estimated OG: 1,055 SG
Estimated Color: 15,6 EBC
Estimated IBU: 48,1 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 80,00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 85,5 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
2,00 kg Pale Ale (2-row) (6,0 EBC) Grain 2 30,5 %
2,07 kg Munich (20,0 EBC) Grain 1 31,6 %
0,54 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (39,4 EBC) Grain 4 8,2 %
1,60 kg Pilsner (4,5 EBC) Grain 3 24,4 %
15,00 g Chinook [13,00 %] - Boil 60,0 min Hop 7 16,7 IBUs
10,00 g Centennial [10,00 %] - Boil 20,0 min Hop 9 5,2 IBUs
15,00 g Centennial [10,00 %] - Boil 5,0 min Hop 12 2,6 IBUs
15,00 g Centennial [10,00 %] - Boil 10,0 min Hop 10 4,7 IBUs
12,00 g Chinook [13,00 %] - Boil 30,0 min Hop 8 10,3 IBUs
10,00 g Cascade [5,50 %] - First Wort 90,0 min Hop 6 5,5 IBUs
10,00 g Cascade [5,50 %] - Boil 1,0 min Hop 14 0,2 IBUs
10,00 g Centennial [10,00 %] - Boil 1,0 min Hop 15 0,4 IBUs
10,00 g Cascade [5,50 %] - Boil 10,0 min Hop 11 1,7 IBUs
10,00 g Cascade [5,50 %] - Boil 5,0 min Hop 13 0,9 IBUs
1,0 pkg SafAle English Ale (DCL/Fermentis #S-04) Yeast 16 -
0,35 kg Wheat Malt, Pale (Weyermann) (3,9 EBC) Grain 5 5,3 %


Mash Schedule: BiabStepMediumBody
Total Grain Weight: 6,56 kg
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Acid Rest Add 11,34 l of water at 44,4 C 40,0 C 20 min
Protein Rest Add 5,76 l of water at 81,7 C 52,0 C 20 min
Saccarification Add 14,19 l of water at 81,0 C 64,0 C 20 min
Mash Step Add 2,81 l of water at 90,3 C 66,0 C 30 min
67 Add 2,12 l of water at 93,7 C 67,5 C 20 min
Mash Step 6 l at 99 C 72,0 C 15 min

Sparge: Remove grains, and prepare to boil wort
Notes:
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Created with BeerSmith 2 - http://www.beersmith.com
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[hairybiker]

spoken like a true Scotsman :lol:

Well I LOVE Yorkshire as well :

I have only reciently started re-using the yeast, but over last 2 years I have had no yeast related issues.
Money is tight (esp for me) and given that for 20+ years I was fermenting using 5g (Yeast)/25L(wort) with no problems, whats the issue ? :thumb:

And with yeast accounting for nearly 20% (£) of a brew if I cut it to 5% then I can brew more beer : :

 

[graysalchemy]

Hi Gray

What size boiler/mashtun do you use for a 60ltr brew?

Andy

its actually 55L but usually squeeze a few more litres out of it. My boiler and mash tuns are officially 60L blue barrels but are actually probably more like 65L.

:thumb:

I would like an 80L thermo and 100L SS pots so I could brew 80L easily.

:thumb:

 

[DirtyCaner]

Hairybiker,

How do you store the other half of the packet until you need it?

Also, does half a packet ferment out in the same amount of time? I usually onlt ferment for 7 days...

Cheers,

DirtyC

 

[wilsoa1111]

in my early days was using 5g of muntons basic, did the job on my 20l wort -always within a week usually had it bottled by then in my haste

 

[JKaranka]

Well, I'm on US-05 and after 8 days it's still bubbling, plus there's one inch of thick krausen at the top :-D... I guess not many things are as uncontrollable as brewing!

 

[johnny_dove]

You were right guys...Think one pack was sufficient...After 3 hours in the fv the excess vodka came flying out from the airlock.:grin: Hope I don't have to clean my floors in the morning.:-o

 

[johnny_dove]

Oh dear, it's coming out the airlock. Put the fv in my 50 litre pot whith some cold water to calm things down a little and so i don't have to swipe the floor. 21 c on the temp strip on the fv. 18-19 c in the apartment.