Roasted cystal Malt

[Ian Blackburn]

Anyone know where I can get some of this...I gather it has to be roasted whole then crushed. I need it for an abbott ale recipe.

 

[Sadfield]

I'm presuming you mean the darker crystal malts that have a second roasting during production. If so, you want Special B or Simpsons DRC (Double Roast Crystal), most online retailers stock one, or both. Try Maltmiller.co.uk.

 

[Ian Blackburn]

Sorry I meant crushed roast malt. And is flaked maize brewing specific or can you buy any type?

 

[JonBrew]

'Roast malt' would suggest to me Roasted Barley which you can buy crushed or uncrushed from pretty much every homebrew shop (online or offline) worth their salt. However, there's also a malt Briess (in the US) produce called Special Roast. Given the ambiguity thus far it might be worth you posting your recipe to be on the safe side?

In terms of flaked maize, I'm pretty sure any will do.

 

[Ian Blackburn]

The menu is for Abbott Ale.....
Page 91 of Dave Lines book "brewing beers like those you buy"

 

[Sadfield]

The menu is for Abbott Ale.....
Page 91 of Dave Lines book "brewing beers like those you buy"

Sorry don't have that book. Isn't it around 20 years old?

 

[JonBrew]

Without seeing the actual recipe I couldn't say for sure but if you say it calls for roast malt I think it will be roasted barley, probably a very small amount.

This link might be of interest to you:
https://www.colchesterhomebrew.co.u...ngblog/read_40351/abbot-ale-clone-recipe.html

 

[Sadfield]

Pale and Crystal Malt with Challenger, Pilgrim, First Gold, Fuggles, according to Greene King. https://www.beer-genius.co.uk/brand_information.aspx?Id=12

Although the linked video claims three speciality malts and 3(?) hop varieties.

 

[Ian Blackburn]

Very interesting thanks very much for the information

 

[Ian Blackburn]

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[Sadfield]

60g Crushed roast malt, likely to be in there to darken the colour. There's a whole plethora of roasted grains available today (Roast Barley, Black malt, Chocolate malt, Carafa). Black Malt is the most obvious choice as it's made from malted Barley, where as Roasted Barley is made from unmalted barley. Either should be easy to get from any homebrew shop and do the job in this context.

The crystal malt, I would lean towards a medium crystal, often labelled 40-60 L (Lovibond) or 80-120 Ebc.

I'm not sure how relevant that recipe is to Abbott Ale as it is now, or even as it was in 1968. It'll still make a nice bitter though.

 

[terrym]

I also have this book, which was first published about 35 years ago. The reference to 'roast malt' seems to be out of step with the other recipes where kilned grain is used. The recipes for Guinness and some bitters (e.g Old Peculiar, Palmers IPA. Morrells Varsity) include 'roast barley'and there are several references to black, chocolate, amber malt and crystal malts, so David Lines is normally quite specific
So my guess is what David Lines meant to say was 'roast barley' but what was printed was 'roast malt', on the other hand (!) he could have meant 'black malt', which is also used in some of his recipes for bitters, including Arkells Kingdown, Gibbs Mew Bishops Tipple, and a few others. So in the end you pays your money and you takes your choice.aunsure....

 

[ACBEV]

Although the linked video claims three speciality malts and 3(?) hop varieties.

The page is a bit misleading. In the blurb on the page it lists Pale Ale, Amber and Crystal, with Challenger, First Gold and Fuggles.

Warming, malty and fruity. Pale and amber malts contribute to a mouth-filling and satisfying Horlicks and biscuity maltiness. Challenger and First Gold give a base note of herbal hop and Fuggles as a late hop contributes the main fragrant fruity and floral and spicy notes. Fermented slowly to give just enough fruity esters Abbot Ale provides a complex, satisfying and warming experience.​

 

[Cwrw666]

Fermented slowly to give just enough fruity esters Abbot Ale provides a complex, satisfying and warming experience.

Had a taster of Abbot in my local last night. Just a boring average bitter, definitely not a satisfying and warming experience. Had the other one that was on offer - Dirty Rucker - didn't spot the brewery as I wasn't wearing me glasses but it was a bit more interesting than the Abbot.

 

[terrym]

HHad the other one that was on offer - Dirty Rucker - didn't spot the brewery as I wasn't wearing me glasses but it was a bit more interesting than the Abbot.

https://www.wadworth.co.uk/beer-and-ales/seasonal-beers/dirty-rucker/

 

[Cwrw666]

That's the one. Cheers Terry. Had 2 more last night...