Portable Gas Cyliners

[mattrickl06]

After nearly melting the hob on my last brew i am going to invest in a portable gas ring and a gas cylinder so i can boil in the garage - sorted for a ring but was thinking what size gas cylinder to look at getting.

The choices are:

3.9kg - exchange £15.49
6kg - exchange £19.99
13kg - exchange £25.49

and 19kg and 47kg but there is no price on these?

Will do probably 1 AG per month and need it for boiling both mash / sparge water and for the boil?

All suggestions gratefully received.

 

[wezil]

Hi I would go for the largest you can afford (and are able to move, the weight only refers to the gas not the bottle as well so this can double the weight). I would suggest a 13 or a 19kg. (47kg are hernia inducing) :rofl: A useful tip is if you can find an empty of the brand of gas, doesn't matter about the type, propane or butane or the size (they often get dumped on the roadside) they just need an empty, it will save you the bottle deposit!

 

[mattrickl06]

Hi I would go for the largest you can afford (and are able to move, the weight only refers to the gas not the bottle as well so this can double the weight). I would suggest a 13 or a 19kg. (47kg are hernia inducing) :rofl: A useful tip is if you can find an empty of the brand of gas, doesn't matter about the type, propane or butane or the size (they often get dumped on the roadside) they just need an empty, it will save you the bottle deposit!

Good thinking - cheers. Have already had one hernia repaired so definately dont want another one :-)

 

[wezil]

I've had two! (guess how I got the second)!! :whistle:

 

[troutie]

Go for Propane if you want to brew in winter as Butane stops working in sub zero temps .

I have 13 kg propane and its done 5 x 90 minute boils so far and still feels to have lots of gas left

 

[pittsy]

yeah i was gonna say 13kg i get around 6 brews out of it

 

[fermentall]

19kg calor propane refill is £39.99 at present. :

 

[wezil]

Go for Propane if you want to brew in winter as Butane stops working in sub zero temps .

Hi, propane will also freeze (but by that time you wouldn't want to be brewing outside)
What does happen though is that the bottle frosts up and loses pressure as the gas is used, resulting in a cooler flame.
Insulating the bottle can help to minimise this, or just watch the temp isn't to low when starting the boil if possible.
And DON'T touch a frosted bottle with a bare hand (it hurts) :lol:

 

[mattrickl06]

I've had two! (guess how I got the second)!! :whistle:

Lugging a 47kg gas cylinder??

Or

Over-exerting yersen during a particularly gymnastic bedroom olympic decathlon??

 

[FuzzySteve]

Definitely go for a 19kg Propane. I used to work for Flogas who were very competitive for a time, but lost a little market share to Energas, who may be worth a ring if they supply your area.

 

[FuzzySteve]

Go for Propane if you want to brew in winter as Butane stops working in sub zero temps .

Hi, propane will also freeze (but by that time you wouldn't want to be brewing outside)
What does happen though is that the bottle frosts up and loses pressure as the gas is used, resulting in a cooler flame.
Insulating the bottle can help to minimise this, or just watch the temp isn't to low when starting the boil if possible.
And DON'T touch a frosted bottle with a bare hand (it hurts) :lol:

You can use a heat mat on the base of a cylinder to create a vapourising effect and get the most gas from a cylinder. I've also seen it done with boiling water, but the water needs to remain hot otherwise it will freeze around the bottle negating the whole point.

Also, you need to match the cylinders vapourising capacity with your appliance(s). If you're running a 7kw gas ring, that equates to 23,800 BTUs. If you run two at the same time in cold weather, you may exceed the capacity of an 11kg propane bottle, for example. In terms of cylinders, the following are the BTU outputs;
47kg Propane 113,000 BTU
19kg Propane 63,000 BTU
11kg Propane 50,000 BTU
13kg Butane 32,000 BTU

 

[wezil]

Over-exerting yersen during a particularly gymnastic bedroom olympic decathlon??

:rofl: (I wish) :rofl: