Parweld co2 regulator

[AJT]

Hi

Sorry for the common topic but can't find a recent post.

I am thinking about getting the parweld regulator from MM but would like some feedback from those you already have it. Is it good or do you wish you have spent a bit more?

https://www.themaltmiller.co.uk/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=588&ccUser=aejor6is77ttcc886ukf6aceb7

Thanks for your help.

Andy

 

[naturals]

I rate mine. The MM one is about £10 more expensive than some people are selling it for on eBay mind - that's where I got mine from.

Only two gripes with mine. Firstly dialing it down to the correct pressure for serving is a little tricky (the difference between 4-5psi on the gauge is miniscule). Others have suggested plumbing in a pressure gauge on a T somewhere in the pressure lines which would seem a sensible suggestion.

Only other complaint is the size of the thing. I have it connected to a baby cylinder inside my keezer. The length of the regulator means that even turned at 45 degrees it takes up as much real estate as a corny. Ideally the brass tube off the cylinder would be an inch or two shorter, but maybe that issue is unique to my setup.

 

[Druncan]

I've got one. Works fine. Got it fitted to a splitter with shut off knobs so I can run two cornies. The hardest bit was locating a 6.5 co2 supplier,,, I also have an adapter so I can use it on a soda stream bottle when I do bright beers for parties. Great bit of kit. Still having problems refilling the soda stream bottles but it can be done!

 

[Bigcol49]

Hi!
I've got a similar model; I agree with the comments about the difficulty in dialling in low pressures - the gauge covers too large a range. I have three secondary valves so this regulator is perfectly adequate for me.

 

[peebee]

Hi

Sorry for the common topic but can't find a recent post.

I am thinking about getting the parweld regulator...

What I used to use. They do the job (get CO2 out of a cylinder in a controlled manner). I swapped mine within a year simply because I wanted something a bit less crude. I was using it to supply "secondary" regulators so I could get some accuracy. "Naturals" (above) mentioned these "welders" regulators wont hold to low pressures (4-5PSI), if you can get 10PSI from it day-to-day (without continually fiddling with it) you're doing well. But be it Parweld or any other like regulator costing about 30 quid you expect nothing better. They do the job... roughly.

Here's my quick guide on the subject: http://www.thehomebrewforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=67424

 

[AJT]

Thanks for all the replies. Thinking I will go for something better. Keg kingdom have a nice regulator for 35 so may go for that.

Cheers

 

[geetee]

I have one of these , where is the best place for a secondary reg with gauge?

 

[BarnBrian]

I've got one. Works fine. Got it fitted to a splitter with shut off knobs so I can run two cornies. The hardest bit was locating a 6.5 co2 supplier,,, I also have an adapter so I can use it on a soda stream bottle when I do bright beers for parties. Great bit of kit. Still having problems refilling the soda stream bottles but it can be done!

Are you refilling the soda stream cylinders yourself, I just bought a filling adapter from CO2Supermarket, not cheap but does the job.

Brian

 

[peebee]

I have one of these , where is the best place for a secondary reg with gauge?

I have recently moved to these:
http://www.shako-online-sales.com/frl/regulators/miniature-regulator-nr200-01-nr200-02
Filthy cheap, but the gauge is an optional extra (still filthy cheap!). They are "diaphragm" types so not as cludgy as the normal sticky cylinder types (but the diaphragm is small so don't expect sub-1psi accuracy like LPG regulators). 0-2bar range (0-30psi) is more than adequate.

You really have to have a bit of a clue to mess with these - they do bigger regulators (NUR-02) that turn out to be "relieving" regulators which sound great, relieve excess pressure in the keg too, until you start messing with the kooky things. And don't connect "secondaries" directly to the CO2 cylinder! (The examples here have a 10bar limit).

 

[peebee]

Can't resist expanding on "kooky". The drawing is the planning behind the CO2 handling boxes I'm building to deal with those "relieving" regulators. I'm having to bracket the regulators between solenoid valves to keep them under control. Should put a few folk off them?

So I'm a draughtsman? That's why I mix pneumatic and electrical symbols in the same drawing :nono: (sack him).

 

[Bigcol49]

I have one of these , where is the best place for a secondary reg with gauge?

Hi!
I got mine from here: http://www.rlbs.ltd.uk/portfolio/v3002-secondary-regulator/
They were just under �£30 each, including postage. I chose these because they were the cheapest I'd found at the time.
These are out of stock, and there's no postage information, but they are reasonably priced: https://www.ewlonline.co.uk/odl-secondary-regulator-c-w-3-8-jg

 

[geetee]

I have recently moved to these:
http://www.shako-online-sales.com/frl/regulators/miniature-regulator-nr200-01-nr200-02
Filthy cheap, but the gauge is an optional extra (still filthy cheap!). They are "diaphragm" types so not as cludgy as the normal sticky cylinder types (but the diaphragm is small so don't expect sub-1psi accuracy like LPG regulators). 0-2bar range (0-30psi) is more than adequate.

You really have to have a bit of a clue to mess with these - they do bigger regulators (NUR-02) that turn out to be "relieving" regulators which sound great, relieve excess pressure in the keg too, until you start messing with the kooky things. And don't connect "secondaries" directly to the CO2 cylinder! (The examples here have a 10bar limit).

Thanks, Probably looking for a more robust 0 - 30 or 40 just in case I forget to set the primary low enough for serving.

 

[geetee]

Hi!
I got mine from here: http://www.rlbs.ltd.uk/portfolio/v3002-secondary-regulator/
They were just under ��£30 each, including postage. I chose these because they were the cheapest I'd found at the time.
These are out of stock, and there's no postage information, but they are reasonably priced: https://www.ewlonline.co.uk/odl-secondary-regulator-c-w-3-8-jg

I like the look of the second one ODL regulator from EWLonline, looks like it goes up to 60PSI and will be back in stock next week so lots of time to brew some beer before I need to use it!

 

[peebee]

... just in case I forget to set the primary low enough for serving.

I don't want to think I've mislead anyone. If you've got a primary with secondaries what you set the primary to is immaterial as long as it is more than you want to set the secondaries to. My primary is fixed, not variable, at 5bar (about 75psi) and previously my old Parweld one was just set at 4bar (60psi) and never touched.

0-30psi IS more than adequate for the secondary, but the same model comes in 0-60psi, and even 0.5-8bar, but I thought we were making beer?

 

[geetee]

I don't want to think I've mislead anyone. If you've got a primary with secondaries what you set the primary to is immaterial as long as it is more than you want to set the secondaries to. My primary is fixed, not variable, at 5bar (about 75psi) and previously my old Parweld one was just set at 4bar (60psi) and never touched.

0-30psi IS more than adequate for the secondary, but the same model comes in 0-60psi, and even 0.5-8bar, but I thought we were making beer?

I made beer and tried to keg it last week but first ran out of gas and then when filled had a leaky regulator so ordered a new Parweld regulator. I read somehwere that these can be difficult to set to 2-4 psi for serving so thought I may as well get a secondary instead or relying on the primary for accurate pressure.

I plan to do as you do , set the primary high aprox 30 -40 and the secondary much lower for serving. Thanks for the advice, pretty new to this end of dispensing as I am used to PB, mini keg and bottles, however I used to work in a lab with Hydrogen.Helium, CO2 and Nitrogen etc so used to big tanks , regulators and DANGEROUS gases especially teh H2( however they are all dangerous at that pressure)!

 

[Druncan]

Are you refilling the soda stream cylinders yourself, I just bought a filling adapter from CO2Supermarket, not cheap but does the job.

Brian

Hi Brian, yeah. Got a valve so I can use my parweld regs. I also have a female to female sleeve and plenty PTFE tape,,:whistle: Not as neat or safe as your system. Apologies for the thread jack!

Secondary reg sounds like a good improvement. Might be better to have more control of the foam,,,, tired of the settling time :nono:
Just ordered one of these 2nd hand to try;http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162443487996 £12.50:smile: