Pale Chocolate Malt ..

[peteplus1]

I'm having a go at Mikkellers Milk Stout for my next brew. I've got all the ingredients apart from the pale chocolate. Without having to order online and pay far more than Id like through shopping, any ideas on tweaking this at all? Or if anyone in the Leeds area knows where I can get some?

maris otter pale* * * X 2.8kg
Flaked oats * * * * * * X 1.3kg
Pale chocolate malt * X 0..450kg
chocolate malt * * * * * X 0.6kg

 

[MyQul]

think you could use carafa special 3 if your lhbs has it or just use regular choccy

 

[johnnyboy1965]

Ive never come across Pale Choc Malt. Choc Malt refers to the colour, not the flavour.

 

[jayjt29]

Must say I've never heard of it either, just use chocolate malt. I would

Cheers
Jay :)

 

[Sbond10]

Pale chocolate is different it in parts the flavour without the colour

 

[peteplus1]

seems to be a difference in coffee strength between the 2 thats all.
I'll get some internet ordering done!

 

[MyQul]

The other thing you could do is cold steep regular choccy as this gives it more of a mellow flavour similar I imagine to what pale choccy is supposed to be like

http://www.jovialmonk.com.au/brewManual/Steeping_grains.pdf

http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/how-to-brew/cold-steeping-getting-the-most-out-of-dark-grains/

 

[stevie123]

The HBC sells it or did, Roughly half the EBC as normal choc malt { even a cold steep will produce a darker than desired ale}

A highly roasted malt which when used in small quantities imparts a rich chocolate flavour to such beers as Brown Ales and Porters. Can also be used to darken Bitters if used carefully. A lighter version of the chocolate malt. Colour 600 EBC; Maximum percentage 5%

 

[stevie123]

Ive never come across Pale Choc Malt. Choc Malt refers to the colour, not the flavour.

Please see my post your comment is incorrect

 

[MyQul]

The HBC sells it or did, Roughly half the EBC as normal choc malt { even a cold steep will produce a darker than desired ale}

A highly roasted malt which when used in small quantities imparts a rich chocolate flavour to such beers as Brown Ales and Porters. Can also be used to darken Bitters if used carefully. A lighter version of the chocolate malt. Colour 600 EBC; Maximum percentage 5%

Have you used it? Putting aside colour, will a cold steep give the OP an approximation of pale choccy?

 

[stevie123]

Have you used it? Putting aside colour, will a cold steep give the OP an approximation of pale choccy?

Yes i have used it a couple of times its not as harsh as ordinary choc malt

I do agree with you however a cold steep may be possible but i would not like to guess on the quantity involved

 

[MyQul]

Yes i have used it a couple of times its not as harsh as ordinary choc malt

I do agree with you however a cold steep may be possible but i would not like to guess on the quantity involved

In that case @peteplus1 you could try using the receipe amount for pale choccy using normal choccy and cold steep it. I think either @beercat or @covrich had a go at cold steeping choccy malt in a stout or a porter. Perhaps they can tell you what the results were like

 

[Covrich]

I did a cold steep, I liked the result but don't have a comparison.. yet. I plan on making another stout in the future but not sure whether its worth it or not.. Seems to divide people, some people say it brings out a smoother flavour of the malts, some prefer the harshness from just mashing it.

 

[BeerCat]

In that case @peteplus1 you could try using the receipe amount for pale choccy using normal choccy and cold steep it. I think either @beercat or @covrich had a go at cold steeping choccy malt in a stout or a porter. Perhaps they can tell you what the results were like

Cant remember so will go find one and get back to you once chilled. :grin:

 

[Hoppyland]

I have used this:
http://www.themaltmiller.co.uk/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=32

Only in 1 brew so far, so limited comments. I did like the result (it was in a malty bitter, not a brown ale or stout). Seemed a lighter, maltier result than using a lesser quantity of choc malt - I suspect more rounded flavour in the finished beer?? but can't really say after 1 brew with no back-to-back comparison :-(
Bill

 

[BeerCat]

Just checked and i did 10% roast barley and 2.5% choc cold steep overnight about 14c. Was trying to brew a stout but have a kinda porter. Its quite drinkable but not what i was looking for. Seems to have the bitterness without the depth of flavour although i have no idea how to taste beer.

 

[johnnyboy1965]

Please see my post your comment is incorrect

Not according to Weyermanns website
Look at the FAQ section

 

[peteplus1]

Got it in the post today anyway so brew on this weekend ☺