Old Beers and Brewing

[EddtheBrew]

Hi All ,
Here`s a lovely Boddington`s Recipe for you to go at !! it`s their C class Ale from 1913 ,
Cheers & Happy Mashing !!
Edd

 

[EddtheBrew]

Hi All ,
Here`s another cracker for you to have a go at , a nice simple Bitter Ale from the Eshaldwell Brewery of Henry Bentley & Co , its from 1896 and weighs in at 4.75 % abv and should be around 45 IBU ,
hope you all enjoy it , and I`d appreciate any pictures of brews from my recipies ,
Cheers

Edd

 

[EddtheBrew]

Hi All ,
Here`s another cracking beer for you to have a go at , (or should that be a Canny ale ??) , a BIG BIG thanks to Eric from the JBK Forum for sending me the photos of the original brewing book to play with .
Hope you all enjoy it , it`s a nice premium mild ale from 1899 ,
Cheers & Happy Mashing Guys ,

Edd

Hop Back Additions : 8 % East Kents , 5 % Fuggles
Water Profile : Soft , with a slight hardness .

 

[Dutto]

Hi All ,
Here`s another cracking beer for you to have a go at , (or should that be a Canny ale ??) , a BIG BIG thanks to Eric from the JBK Forum for sending me the photos of the original brewing book to play with .
Hope you all enjoy it , it`s a nice premium mild ale from 1899 ,
Cheers & Happy Mashing Guys ,

Edd

Hop Back Additions : 8 % East Kents , 5 % Fuggles
Water Profile : Soft , with a slight hardness .

Hiya,

I love a Mild during the winter and was looking forward to seeing one in "Metric" so that my old brain doesn't hurt too much so .... great! :thumb:

However, I couldn't find any weights for the Hops; which may be up to me misreading the Recipe; in which case I apologise.

Also, what is a BARM? Some type of yeast?

Anyway, regardless of the above "Thanks for the recipe." it looks to be a "Summer for Winter" brew, maybe sometime in June! :thumb:

 

[EddtheBrew]

Hiya,

I love a Mild during the winter and was looking forward to seeing one in "Metric" so that my old brain doesn't hurt too much so .... great! :thumb:

However, I couldn't find any weights for the Hops; which may be up to me misreading the Recipe; in which case I apologise.

Also, what is a BARM? Some type of yeast?

Anyway, regardless of the above "Thanks for the recipe." it looks to be a "Summer for Winter" brew, maybe sometime in June! :thumb:

How Do Dutto ,
The hops are in IBU required mate , and barm is another way of saying a live yeast .
As to when to brew , it would have been a best mild equivalent, and anytime's good !
I'll be typing up the Dutton's of Blackburn Mild I've converted ; it's from 1967 and I'll pop it up , its a nice easy session mild , about 2.5 weeks from grist case to glass :).
Cheers
Edd

 

[chesters-mild]

Thanks for posting Edd
Yes Barm is the name for yeast, me old dad, who worked at Chesters Brewery in Manchester would always use that name for yeast.
Do you have a recipe for Chesters Mild by any chance?
Cheers

 

[EddtheBrew]

Hi All ,
Here`s the Chester Northgate Pale Ale from 1902 that I mentioned a while back ,
Next Up : Dutton`s Mild 1967 (should be up next week sometime)
Cheers & Happy Mashing

Edd

 

[EddtheBrew]

Hi All ,
Here`s the DUTTON`S Mild from 1967 I mentioned last week ,
Cheers & Happy Mashing ,
Edd

Numbers wrong on the grist % , will correct & re post asap ,
Regards edd

 

[chesters-mild]

Edd, thanks for the response to my conversations with you, most helpful - I discovered I'd got the CAMRA book so I'll formulate a Chesters clone from the information in there. It may take some time - but there will be plenty of beer to drink!!
Cheers, and thanks again

 

[EddtheBrew]

Edd, thanks for the response to my conversations with you, most helpful - I discovered I'd got the CAMRA book so I'll formulate a Chesters clone from the information in there. It may take some time - but there will be plenty of beer to drink!!
Cheers, and thanks again

Hi Chesters,
No problems, happy to help !
Cheers
Edd

 

[EddtheBrew]

Hi All ,
I`ve corrected the Dutton`s Mild grist ; for some reason I substituted another malt grist in my notebook (as opposed to my rough workbook ) , so I`ve looked at the original brewing book photo again , and converted the grist % again !! ;
Cheers & Happy Mashing
Edd

 

[peebee]

Hi All ,
...

Hello Edd.
Got someone grubbing around for "Oldham Bitter". Have you dug up anything on Oldham Bitter (Boddingtons I believe?)?

 

[EddtheBrew]

Hi Peebee ,
Sadly I`ve not been able to locate any Oldham Brewery brewing info , and I`m pretty sure that there are NO brewing books in the archives @ Oldham or , at any other public archive source ; it could be that they were destroyed or fed to the boiler / skip when the brewery closed . I`ll keep my ears open though , and I`ll email Oldham Archives to see what they have from the brewery , (if anything) ,
Cheers ;

Edd

PS: Have you seen the Graham Wheeler CAMRA home brewing books , as I seem to remember that there`s one of the O.B beers in one of them (The last time I tried an Oldham Beer was on a visit to Burtonwood Brewery in the 1990`s (The Mild was being brewed under contract there) .

 

[peebee]

Thanks Edd.
Actually the "asker" had this link https://books.google.co.uk/books?id...MAQ#v=onepage&q=bitter oldham brewery&f=false which seems reasonably correct? I can imagine the "asker" will start quibbling about the yeast to use.

I'll pass on your comments. Cheers.

 

[EddtheBrew]

Hi Peebee ,
I've just had an email from Oldham archives, and I'll be checking the info out , but a couple of things and , re the book you mentioned;
1) no mashing and sparging perameters
2) boil times aren't included
3) yeast strain recommendations
There's a good little resource in the shape of the gravities book of competitors in the Dutton's archives @ Lancashire record office on Bow Lane in Preston , maybe more info in there which I'd have to look at to interpret / see photographs of .
Cheers
Edd

 

[stevic]

Bit of a long shot here regarding O. B. bitter, and what an excellent pint it was when brewed at Henshaw St before Boddies ruined it. The Owl Brewery set up in Oldham a good few years back in the Hope pub in Oldham and brewed an O. B. clone. I feel sure the owner/brewer/landlord was something to do with O. B. before its sad demise although I could be mistaken. The Hope is no longer a pub but I am sure brewing continued after its closure and as I left the Oldham area at the same time am not sure even if it is still in production. There is a bit more info here http://www.owlbrew.co.uk/beers.htm and a contact email address. Sorry to be a bit vague as it is well over 10yrs back now.

 

[peebee]

Hi Peebee ,
I've just had an email from Oldham archives, ...

Thanks Edd. Here's some info from "Eric" on that other forum (Jim's - I'm sure you snoop around on it, and it wouldn't surprise me to know you know Eric too). Here's a screen capture in case you can't easily find it:

(EDIT: What a naff screen capture - here's the copied text:
"It would appear the original recipe and brewing records are with Robinson's who own the rights. Some of the original financial and similar records are at the National Achives. What the original beer was like I wouldn't know, nor any versions brewed in other places as I've no recollection of even seeing it anywhere, but would think like so many others, none would likely match the original article.

Note the 86.5% English pale malt in the recipe here with crystal and #1 invert plus Goldings bittering and late from Ron Pattinson for a mild by Oldham Brewery. Seems a possible pattern.

As for yeast, possibly a Yorkshire Square type originally. Now likely something different, possibly even bottom fermenting used in a tall conical.")

 

[EddtheBrew]

Hi Peebee,
Thanks for that , I know Eric from that other place , and on the yeast front , if it was a Yorkshire Square strain hmm , I'd probably go for a John Smith's yeast , as a hell of a lot of the smaller northern brewers were using it , Tong's of Bolton , Whitwell Mark of Kendal etc etc.
Now I'm not sure if Robinson's own the rights or , were the last to produce an Oldham beer , I'll see what I can dig up on this .
The big things are , Mashing , Sparging and concomitant procedures with the joys of Liquor , Hop & Malt varieties et al being in the grist as well .
Cheers
Edd

 

[peebee]

… and on the yeast front , if it was a Yorkshire Square strain hmm , I'd probably go for a John Smith's yeast , as a hell of a lot of the smaller northern brewers were using it , Tong's of Bolton , Whitwell Mark of Kendal etc etc. ...

Yes, I was a bit unsure about the yeast suggestion. Especially as it contradicted my suggestion. https://www.whitelabs.com/yeast-bank/wlp038-manchester-ale-yeast - fascinating discussion on yeast's diastaticus variation. I was happy with my suggestion as it would produce a very attenuated beer, whereas a Yorkshire Square one wouldn't be ("West Yorkshire" yeast from Wyeast isn't a high attenuator in my experience although Wyeast declare it as finishing "dry"). I used to prefer (some) Yorkshire beers when I lived in Lancashire, probably for that reason? Bought up with the sweeter East Midland and Burton-on-Trent bitters.

 

[EddtheBrew]

Hi Peebee ,
Aaah a tricky bugger i s yeast strain recommendation.
I be posted on a couple of sites a version of the 1955 Boddingtons I.P (Bitter) which was well received , and did not reccomend the White Labs Manchester yeast , there's no ffin way it'll get down to F.Grav @ 1.005° !!
Cheers
Edd