No Chill Cubes

[Saisonator]

Hi, I wondered where everybody buys no chill cubes from.
I am looking for a 15 litre example but no luck so far.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

What's a cube? Apart from being a 6 sided object.

 

[PhilBrew]

Hi @Saisonator
The "best" sellers of such items change too often to really get useful advice online .. you're probably best just scouring the fleabay for "Jerry Can" and making sure whatever you buy is food safe and heat resilient (probably HDPE)

What's a cube?

... a jerry can, that you drop your wort in at the end of the boil while its still hot, then squeeze (as much as you can of) the air out of it and seal it, then turn it over to ensure the hot wort comes into contact with all internal surfaces ... when cooled you have a jerry can full of pasteurised wort ... Australian brewers tend to call them "no-chill cubes" because they leave them to cool naturally, American brewers sometimes refer to them as "swamp coolers", because they often go drop them into the swamps at the bottom of their gardens to cool, apparently ... with it all sealed up and pasteurised, the wort will keep for a while until you're ready to pitch. In some countries, and Malt Miller used to sell these in the UK but they stopped for some reason, you can buy wort in this state as "Fresh Wort Kits" (e.g. those there (link)) :hat:

Cheers, PhilB

 

[DavidDetroit]

American brewers sometimes refer to them as "swamp coolers",

In the US, a swamp cooler is a larger container/tub filled with some water and ice and the fermenter sits in it. Towels are draped over the fermenter and dip partially in the water to draw liquid into the towels. The main idea is cooling through evaporation. It is mostly done in really hot parts of the country when someone has no refrigeration ability.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Hi @Saisonator
The "best" sellers of such items change too often to really get useful advice online .. you're probably best just scouring the fleabay for "Jerry Can" and making sure whatever you buy is food safe and heat resilient (probably HDPE)

... a jerry can, that you drop your wort in at the end of the boil while its still hot, then squeeze (as much as you can of) the air out of it and seal it, then turn it over to ensure the hot wort comes into contact with all internal surfaces ... when cooled you have a jerry can full of pasteurised wort ... Australian brewers tend to call them "no-chill cubes" because they leave them to cool naturally, American brewers sometimes refer to them as "swamp coolers", because they often go drop them into the swamps at the bottom of their gardens to cool, apparently ... with it all sealed up and pasteurised, the wort will keep for a while until you're ready to pitch. In some countries, and Malt Miller used to sell these in the UK but they stopped for some reason, you can buy wort in this state as "Fresh Wort Kits" (e.g. those there (link)) :hat:

Cheers, PhilB

Thanks I've learned something new again on this forum.

 

[MyQul]

Hi, I wondered where everybody buys no chill cubes from.
I am looking for a 15 litre example but no luck so far.

How long do you need to keep your wort? if your only no-chilling overnight then pitching the next day you can buy 15L buckets from ebay

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Plastic-...rentrq:9bb2d98c1730a9e8e0d3ba60ffe3fb4c|iid:1

 

[marshbrewer]

If you want to go and look at some, they had some food safe Jerry cans in The Range when I went in a couple of weeks ago, in various sizes. They had taps on them though, as I guess they were for drinking water.

 

[Matt_W]

I got a couple of Amazon back in December. I’ve just checked and they’re currently unavailable.

Just search for HDPE and the size you want. They do expand a fair bit when filled with hot wort. Mine are 20L and I get 22L plus a little air space.

Don’t worry trying to squeeze every bit of air out, you’ll just burn yourself.

 

[Saisonator]

How long do you need to keep your wort? if your only no-chilling overnight then pitching the next day you can buy 15L buckets from ebay

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Plastic-...rentrq:9bb2d98c1730a9e8e0d3ba60ffe3fb4c|iid:1

I wanted the option of storing for a week or two so I can brew even when my fermentation fridge is in use.

 

[MyQul]

I wanted the option of storing for a week or two so I can brew even when my fermentation fridge is in use.

In that case use a proper cube. I only store wort in buckets for a max of 48 hours. The couple of times I've gone longer the wort started to have an unusual smell or spontaneously start to ferment (although after chucking the beer yeast in the beer was fine)

 

[Saisonator]

I got a couple of Amazon back in December. I’ve just checked and they’re currently unavailable.

Just search for HDPE and the size you want. They do expand a fair bit when filled with hot wort. Mine are 20L and I get 22L plus a little air space.

Don’t worry trying to squeeze every bit of air out, you’ll just burn yourself.

I tend to do 12 litre batches, but if I can get 11 litres into a 10 litre cube, then that would be acceptabl.

 

[foxy]

They have cubes here-https://invopak.co.uk/15l-plastic-white-un-approved-stackable-jerry-can-with-61mm-neck-670g
Give them a ring and ask where to buy a smaller quantity.
Or 10 litre cubes here.
https://oipps.co.uk/plastic-containers/jerrycans

 

[Cheyne_brewer]

Cubes - as far as I can see they are what used to be known as polypins - often found containing small batches of cider in real ale (ie proper) pubs.

 

[PhilBrew]

Don’t worry trying to squeeze every bit of air out, you’ll just burn yourself.

... hmmm, but with oven gloves between your knees and the cube, you'll only singe the hairs of your inner calves and thighs

Cheers, PhilB

 

[MyQul]

Cubes - as far as I can see they are what used to be known as polypins - often found containing small batches of cider in real ale (ie proper) pubs.

Cubes are a bit different. They basically hard plastic jerrycans

 

[Hoppyland]

I use these:
https://ampulla.co.uk/shop/plastic/...-natural-stackable-jerry-can-p-din51-t-e-cap/No 15l size though, unfortunately, the next one up is 20l. If you live near Manchester you can collect & save delivery (or at least you could - not sure in these virus times)