Name the Malt

[Braufather]

I am brewing an all grain custom kit today, an American pale with the only crystal malt being a bit of crisp 150. However on mashing in I noticed a fair few very dark grains that taste of burnt toast, so name that malt. Maybe Crytal 150 is darker than i remember.

 

[Braufather]

Black malt?

 

[Agentgonzo]

I think that in some of the darker crystals, you can get individual grains that are roasted more than others.
Take a look at this page
https://www.onlinecraftbeer.co.uk/shop/homebrew/product/muntons-crystal-150-malt

 

[Braufather]

Thing is the wort is mud brown. 5% Crystal 150 doesn’t do that!

 

[Agentgonzo]

was there an ingredient list on the custom kit? Did you create it? Where did you get it from?

 

[Braufather]

Dizzy Rascal_11586 [Grain Option: Crush]	1​
Base Malts
Weyermann® Rye Malt (EBC 4 - 10) [0Kg] [320G]		£0.77​	£0.13​	£0.77​
Weyermann® Pale Ale Malt (EBC 3 - 5) [3Kg] [500G]		£7.70​	£1.28​	£7.70​
Weyermann® Munich Malt Type 1 (EBC 12 - 18) [0Kg] [220G]		£0.48​	£0.08​	£0.48​
Caramel Malts
Crisp Light Crystal 150 (EBC 145-165) [0Kg] [220G]		£0.59​	£0.10​	£0.59​
Flaked Malts / Adjuncts
Crisp Flaked Torrefied Oats [0Kg] [200G]		£0.40​	£0.07​	£0.40​
Hops

 

[Braufather]

Done it loads of times, been fine before. They have definitely fecked up the crystal I think. Thing is I’ve got about 300g of hops and a smacked pack of wyeast ready to throw at this. Thinking of dialling the hop back. It going to be a bit random.

 

[Agentgonzo]

I wonder whether they threw dark crystal in the bag instead.

 

[Braufather]

Must have, Geterbrewed are denying it though.

 

[Agentgonzo]

Must have, Geterbrewed are denying it though.

I would deny it too if I made a mistake in fairness. And Boris would lie through his teeth and say that you you'd ordered black malt in the first place

 

[YeastFace]

Looks like it'll end up as an American Brown, which are delicious.

Hopefully it will end up being a tasty mistake, even if you might not be able to replicate it again!

 

[Braufather]

Yes, It’s in the fermenter now. Maybe I’ve stumbled across a cracking brown/amber/red!

 

[Agentgonzo]

Yes, It’s in the fermenter now. Maybe I’ve stumbled across a cracking brown/amber/red!

I've made many "accidental brews". I'm sure it'll be tasty... just not what you had originally intended. Enter it into a comp and see what they make of it!!!

I would write back to GEB and show them some photos of it and the colour it came out. Just the resulting colour of the wort should be enough to convince them that it wasnt' the grain bill you ordered!

 

[Braufather]

I’m taking it as a sign from above to invest in a grain mill and start milling my own!

 

[Agentgonzo]

I’m taking it as a sign from above to invest in a grain mill and start milling my own!

That's is definitely a positive to take out this experience! I like it when stories of brewing end up in new kit! Basic brewing radio even have it on their end of year "disaster show bingo cards"!

 

[Agentgonzo]

I'm measuring out ingredients for tomorrow. This is crystal malt from warminster, 135 EBC.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Sounds like they’ve confused EBC for Lovibond.

 

[Braufather]

That’s what I thought or so
Erving similar but looking at those pics above and the ones they sent me this morning it looks like there are a few black roasty grains in their as standard!

 

[Cwrw666]

I'm measuring out ingredients for tomorrow. This is crystal malt from warminster, 135 EBC.

That looks really dark. About the same as the 250 EBC crystal I have in stock.

 

[Agentgonzo]

That looks really dark. About the same as the 250 EBC crystal I have in stock.

Some grains are darker than others. I suspect that they make a bunch at different EBCs, then blend them to give a greater range of crystals.