Klarstein Mundschenk

[AJA]

It would definitely be safer to just replace the plug, but not sure whether that would affect the warranty.

Yeah, i didn't do this for exactly this reason. Bought an adapter for about £2.50 from CPC, luckily I was already making an order.

 

[Robin54]

I saw a video of this machine being used and a second person was required to insert a support ring for the grain basket when it is raised.
Is this still the case?

 

[AJA]

I saw a video of this machine being used and a second person was required to insert a support ring for the grain basket when it is raised.
Is this still the case?

No, it has supports to insert the basket when it is raised

 

[AJA]

No, it has supports to insert the basket when it is raised

 

[gingerneil]

When mashing, is there a need to add the ~5L of space below the malt pipe to the calculated mash water volume? Even if circulating the water?

 

[AJA]

When mashing, is there a need to add the ~5L of space below the malt pipe to the calculated mash water volume? Even if circulating the water?

Yes, otherwise your mash will be too thick

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Yes, otherwise your mash will be too thick

Exactly I found that on my first mash, but you need to reduce your sparge water.

 

[gingerneil]

ok - thanks

 

[AJA]

When mashing, is there a need to add the ~5L of space below the malt pipe to the calculated mash water volume? Even if circulating the water?

The deadspace is a massive 7l btw, just measured. Kinda makes it hard to do smaller mashes, and limits efficiency as not much sparge water.

 

[Usief]

Warranty was my concern. The plug Isn't a removable job so would have to chop the cable. The adapter itself has a 13 amp fuse and encloses the whole plug. I don't think it'll be an issue. The pump was a concern also without a filter. The last all in one that broke had a right angled bar that fitted into the pump hole to avoid all the crap at the bottom of the vessel. It doesn't fit nicely though.

 

[foxy]

I bought mine direct from China 2017, that was the early model where it din't chime and went straight to the next step without waiting for any buttons to be pressed.
Here are some tips I can pass on.
I evolved with the vessel and the tweaks I did to it. Biggest thing to look out for is always check for any tap leaks from behind the tap. This is what eventually killed my first one when water got onto the board. Preventative measure is a bead of silicone around the grove below the tap or just keep the tap under observation.
Mash at around 15-1700 w to avoid scorching the sugar to the base above the elements. Don't think about putting any sort of filter over the pump inlet, the reason so as to let any grain husks which has slipped between the tube and the body to be pumped back out onto the grain bed.
Make a pick up tube for the tap outlet, use the bazooka on top of the overflow pipe. Once confidence has risen remove top plate and overflow pipe, I have my top and bottom plate down the bottom and secured in position.
I started doing full volume mash so used all-thread as the handle which raises the tube an extra 10mm. Try and use the unit in a raised position so you can empty from the tap, pumping the wort out isn't such a good idea.
Even if you just remove the top plate try and stir every 10 minutes to break up the grain removing hot and cool spots in the mash. Only need to do this until the starch has converted 30 minutes at most.
Insulate the unit and return pipe to keep a stable temperature. Temperature shouldn't move anymore than 0,8 degrees either way.
A good whirlpool and you won't need hop bags or spiders, the hop matter will be left in the kettle with the break material.
Just a bit of patience before drawing off clear wort into the wort into the fermenter.

 

[malhal]

What if we sank a filter over the pump inlet just before adding whirlpool hops? E.g. like using one of the circular mesh plates from the malt pipe? Is the diameter of the mesh large enough to cover the inlet no matter where it lands?

I'd like to use the bottom drain to transfer from instead of the tap so don't lose any wort, it would probably be over a litre wasted.

 

[foxy]

What if we sank a filter over the pump inlet just before adding whirlpool hops? E.g. like using one of the circular mesh plates from the malt pipe? Is the diameter of the mesh large enough to cover the inlet no matter where it lands?

I'd like to use the bottom drain to transfer from instead of the tap so don't lose any wort, it would probably be over a litre wasted.

What is left in the kettle pour into a jug, place jug in the fridge everything will settle out, pour into saucepan take up to 80C either cool it and add to fermenter or bottle it.


You wont waste a drop, make starters with the bottled wort or add to another brew.

 

[foxy]

Another saving. Squeeze the wort from the grain using 20 kg weight in a circular motion, you can extract 2 - 2.5 litres depending on the amount of grain used.

 

[malhal]

Another saving. Squeeze the wort from the grain using 20 kg weight in a circular motion, you can extract 2 - 2.5 litres depending on the amount of grain used.

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Just sparge more for same resulting volume but less tannins. The water you add will push the sugary water out.

 

[clib]

The deadspace is a massive 7l btw, just measured. Kinda makes it hard to do smaller mashes, and limits efficiency as not much sparge water.

Is a full volume mash a possible solution?

 

[AJA]

Is a full volume mash a possible solution?

Yes, but it's suboptimal in terms of efficiency.

 

[clib]

Yes, but it's suboptimal in terms of efficiency.

I do full volume stove top 12-18 litres and get 80% plus with a mash out.

 

[malhal]

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I tried that with the basket open in 2 tabs and then enter each code in each tab, it fails with "Combination with vouchers of other series is not allowed."

 

[foxy]

Just sparge more for same resulting volume but less tannins. The water you add will push the sugary water out.

Full volume so there is no sparge. Tannins never occur from grain with no sparge, only sparged grains can produce tannins.