Jaipur IPA

[Northern_Brewer]

Using America hops wasn't anything new to British brewing in the 1890s.

But that was just for bittering, Dobbin's Yakima Grande was probably the first British beer that showcased the flavour of a USian hop, as a clone of SNPA. Even things like Willamette are really just Fuggles with a suntan, (see also Savinjski) - highlighting things like Centennial and Ahtanum is a step up.

As an aside, it's a bit of a shame how Ahtanum is under-rated, I think it's a really nice hop but it would probably do better if its name began with C....

 

[StJayJay]

In some places more than others I think. It barely registered in Manchester, there were plenty of American style pales around well before 2005. Perhaps Jaipur went nationwide before others did?

Possibly, I think they pushed open the door, Brewdog really pushed through with getting Punk into Tesco.
Incidentally, I’m sure it was Manchester I first tried Jaipur, possibly the Thirsty Scholar or the Font, somewhere like that. I did spend too much time in pubs there late 90s early 00s so it’s all a bit hazy!

 

[clib]

All these things get kinda complicated, there tends to be "shoots" popping up all over the place that stay pretty local, and then suddenly one of them takes off and is the one that gets remembered - you see that Stateside with the likes of Bert Grant and Jack McAuliffe being relatively forgotten whereas everybody knows Ken Grossman (Sierra Nevada) and Fritz Maytag (Anchor).

Yes, in Manchester you had Brendan Dobbin at West Coast Brewery and Tony Allen first with Oak Brewery in Ellesmere Port and then the Phoenix Brewery in Heywood, there was Sean Franklin at Roosters and John Wood/John Bryan at Oakham. But they were mostly working with the more "traditional" US hops like Cascade, Mt Hood and Willamette.

Jaipur gets attention partly I suspect for being one of the first to get significant distribution outside its immediate area and also for being the link between Kelham Island (Pale Rider winning CBOB in 2004 is one of the landmarks of British beer history) and Brewdog.

As an aside, here's a recipe from Brewstore :
http://www.brewstore.co.uk/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Jaipur-Recipe.pdf

Chinook Centennial and Ahtanum are among the more trad American hops tbf. I think you're right about the distribution thing.

 

[Northern_Brewer]

Possibly, I think they pushed open the door, Brewdog really pushed through with getting Punk into Tesco.
Incidentally, I’m sure it was Manchester I first tried Jaipur, possibly the Thirsty Scholar or the Font, somewhere like that. I did spend too much time in pubs there late 90s early 00s so it’s all a bit hazy!

Well it was first brewed in summer 2005, so that timing probably doesn't match up.

 

[Northern_Brewer]

Chinook Centennial and Ahtanum are among the more trad American hops tbf. I think you're right about the distribution thing.

Released in 1985, 1990 and 1997, you could regard them as being in the "third generation" of US hops, after Cluster and Cascade/Willamette. It's only 16 years since there was enough Ahtanum being grown to register on the official US hop report in its own right.

 

[Sadfield]

But that was just for bittering,

Is that entirely true, though. Preferred for bittering, certainly, but in times of UK harvest failures or in the cheapest of beers? However I agree intention for using them may have differed.

 

[soupdragon]

Just a coincidence but I'm brewing Sara Carter's (now head brewer at Triple fff) take on Jaipur tomorrow.
Competition winning recipe, widely posted on forums. Not made it on a couple of years. Been planned on doing it for a few months but not got around to it up until now

Cheers Tom

 

[StJayJay]

Well it was first brewed in summer 2005, so that timing probably doesn't match up.

I’ve not really described that very well with my year numbering sorry, have a habit of calling anything in the 21st century to date “the 2000s” as I refuse to believe we are 21 years into the 2000s.
I was at university there 1999-2002, then working there until 2014, but hardly went out in Manchester after I moved to Widnes in 2009.
So some point between 2005 and 2009.

It was the only time I’ve had it on cask other than at the Durham beer festival in 2011 (mid 00s ). Now that one does stick out as the man suggested my wife try something else as the Jaipur might not be suited to a lady’s taste. He got “the look” from her.

 

[MirtazaPaul]

Possibly, I think they pushed open the door, Brewdog really pushed through with getting Punk into Tesco.
Incidentally, I’m sure it was Manchester I first tried Jaipur, possibly the Thirsty Scholar or the Font, somewhere like that. I did spend too much time in pubs there late 90s early 00s so it’s all a bit hazy!

Snap.. I think!
Remembered trying an interesting new beer, like nothing else. Thought it was Jaipur, but subsequent Jaipurs weren't the same

 

[NormanHurst]

Boak and Bailey's latest post rather topical...

https://boakandbailey.com/2021/05/a-palenhoppy-timeline/

 

[dad_of_jon]

jaipur, punk ipa(v1) and bengali tiger launched me into the american craft beer scene. Only bengali stayed true to its roots re: recipe & my taste buds. Jaipur is undrinkable for me thesedays. I had 2 pints of pint of punk on draught in singleton parks pop up food/drink fayre and it was ok. To my mind only bengali was as good when I started drinking it to when it stopped being available from 'spoons

 

[Derek Smalls]

Perhaps Thornbridge have realised that Jaipur’s lost its novelty value, and has been overtaken by more powerfully hopped brews which appeal more to our altered palates. This could be why they’ve introduced this Jaipur DDH (Double Dry Hopped). Same recipe otherwise, they say, just does exactly what it says on the tin.

I haven’t tried it yet, but one of these is chilling in the fridge ready for tasting...

 

[MirtazaPaul]

Perhaps Thornbridge have realised that Jaipur’s lost its novelty value, and has been overtaken by more powerfully hopped brews which appeal more to our altered palates. This could be why they’ve introduced this Jaipur DDH (Double Dry Hopped). Same recipe otherwise, they say, just does exactly what it says on the tin.
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I haven’t tried it yet, but one of these is chilling in the fridge ready for tasting...

Looks like it could be a good one. I've stopped buying craft beer because I am poor and find it overpriced and over carbonated. Just hope that my own homebrew is drinkable

 

[Derek Smalls]

Looks like it could be a good one. I've stopped buying craft beer because I am poor and find it overpriced and over carbonated. Just hope that my own homebrew is drinkable

I’m quite partial to over-carbonated beer myself. Means you get to taste it again when you belch it up...

I’ve just drunk one of the DDH Jaipurs. Quite cloudy, very pleasant, but maybe not a taste orgasm. Second opinion will be over the weekend.

 

[NormanHurst]

Perhaps Thornbridge have realised that Jaipur’s lost its novelty value, and has been overtaken by more powerfully hopped brews which appeal more to our altered palates. This could be why they’ve introduced this Jaipur DDH (Double Dry Hopped). Same recipe otherwise, they say, just does exactly what it says on the tin.
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I haven’t tried it yet, but one of these is chilling in the fridge ready for tasting...

Jaipur DDH is an interesting one as the recipes I have seen - including in the Mitch Steele IPA - suggest that Jaipur isn't even single dry hopped.

 

[Windey]

Link please Tom

Incidentally, I first had Jaipur on cask in the Fox and Duck in Sheffield c.2005. One of the reasons I liked it so much was the difference to other big hits in the area at that time (namely Abbeydale Moonshine - which I wasn't keen on). I was an avid Guinness drinker until I started working in that pub and I'd say that Jaipur got me interested in 'proper' beer!

All that said, it tastes nothing like it's former self nowadays.

I've got the Brewstore clone in the FV currently. I'll report back in a couple of weeks' time!

Ta,
Ross.

Just a coincidence but I'm brewing Sara Carter's (now head brewer at Triple fff) take on Jaipur tomorrow.
Competition winning recipe, widely posted on forums. Not made it on a couple of years. Been planned on doing it for a few months but not got around to it up until now

Cheers Tom

 

[soupdragon]

Link please Tom

Incidentally, I first had Jaipur on cask in the Fox and Duck in Sheffield c.2005. One of the reasons I liked it so much was the difference to other big hits in the area at that time (namely Abbeydale Moonshine - which I wasn't keen on). I was an avid Guinness drinker until I started working in that pub and I'd say that Jaipur got me interested in 'proper' beer!

All that said, it tastes nothing like it's former self nowadays.

I've got the Brewstore clone in the FV currently. I'll report back in a couple of weeks' time!

Ta,
Ross.

https://www.thehomebrewforum.co.uk/threads/sara-carters-bombay-ipa.25360/
I think the original post was on Jim's as Sara used to be a member.

It really does make a cracking beer and is very close to the original recipe Jaipur. Ive actually got a corny of it conditioning in the brew fridge at the moment

Cheers Tom

 

[Windey]

https://www.thehomebrewforum.co.uk/threads/sara-carters-bombay-ipa.25360/
I think the original post was on Jim's as Sara used to be a member.

It really does make a cracking beer and is very close to the original recipe Jaipur. Ive actually got a corny of it conditioning in the brew fridge at the moment

Cheers Tom

Thanks for that! I've actually substituted Ahtanum with Amarillo anyway though my hop balance is slightly different.

Ta,
Ross.

 

[soupdragon]

Thanks for that! I've actually substituted Ahtanum with Amarillo anyway though my hop balance is slightly different.

Ta,
Ross.

Good luck with it and don't forget to report back

Cheers Tom

 

[matt76]

When I was on holiday last week I picked up a couple of 4-packs from the supermarket, Thornbridge Jaipur and Lagunitas IPA. I was sadly disappointed by the Lagunitas which used to be one of my faves (not so hoppy as I remember, more sweet and cloying - maybe it's gone downhill?) but I really rather enjoyed the Jaipur (maybe I just got lucky and got a good pack?)...

I might be wrong but I'm sure the can said something about notes of lemongrass (doesn't say that on the website but it seems to appear in supermarket descriptions online) which fitted with what I tasted, and I could imagine it going well with Thai or Indian food.

I do wonder if the recipe has changed over time, specifically the hops - I've looked at a few homebrew clone recipes, and the Brew Store recipe says Chinook, Centennial & Ahtanum whereas the can clearly lists those three plus Simcoe, Columbus and Cascade.