Hop Substitutions

[Doglaner]

Hello,

I'm going to brew a Honey Ale soonish (p124 of Greg Hughes' Home Brew Beer) to shake down a new AG brewing set up.

The recipe in the book calls for 8g of Target hops at 1min. (Amongst others which I already have).

It seems a small amount to buy for one brew, so does anyone have any thoughts as to whether Cascade, Amarillo, Goldings or Fuggles would be a good substitute? I have plenty of those in stock.

Thanks for your help.

Dog.

 

[Hoppyland]

Well, my first though is that 8g of Target at 1min is a typo.
I haven't used Target - but only because I've read that it's a high-alpha hop, good for bittering, but with a harsh flavour.
What is your intended fermenting volume? 8g of any hops at 1min is a tiny amount, to me. Are you sure this is right? 8g of a high-alpha hop at 60mins I could understand.
In terms of substitutes.... well again I haven't used Target. But, your alternatives all have problems. Fuggles & Goldings might have a similar aroma, but are greatly lower in bittering terms (4-5% as opposed to 10-12%), so a lot more would be needed for bittering.
The other hops are going to taste/smell very different. Amarillo will have a similar bittering effect to Target, but will give a definite aroma hit at 1 min (except for that pesky 8g, which I don't believe unless you're brewing in a teapot)
Cascade is inbetween regarding bittering, but also gives beer an "American IPA" feel

 

[cheapbrew]

Have a look here

http://www.brew365.com/hop_substitution_chart.php

https://www.hopunion.com/aroma-wheel/?aroma=Floral

https://www.hopunion.com/hop-varieties/

 

[Doglaner]

Thanks cheapbrew.

I did think 8g at 1min looked a bit light for a late addition. I'm doing a 23l brew, so it is a big teapot, even for me!

I have got some Fuggles, so from one of the links you posted this might work. I'll have a think and a play around in Brewmate.

I've noticed a few odd things in the Greg Hughes book. For example the cherry lambic has no cherries in the recipe!

Thanks again. I'll post my eventual decision here.

Dog.

 

[Leon103]

Thanks cheapbrew.

I did think 8g at 1min looked a bit light for a late addition. I'm doing a 23l brew, so it is a big teapot, even for me!

I have got some Fuggles, so from one of the links you posted this might work. I'll have a think and a play around in Brewmate.

I've noticed a few odd things in the Greg Hughes book. For example the cherry lambic has no cherries in the recipe!

Thanks again. I'll post my eventual decision here.

Dog.

Are you reading the recipe right? There are 6kg of morello cherries listed in my recipe.

 

[Doglaner]

I'll look again later. I have the version published by Dorling Kindersley. Is that the same as yours?

If you have another version, what do you have as the hop schedule for the Honey Ale recipe?

Hope you don't mind me asking!

Thanks.

 

[MyQul]

I have the DK version (I'm unaware there is another version) but the cherries are listed at the bottom of the receipe in with the yeast heading

 

[Leon103]

I'll look again later. I have the version published by Dorling Kindersley. Is that the same as yours?

If you have another version, what do you have as the hop schedule for the Honey Ale recipe?

Hope you don't mind me asking!

Thanks.

No mine had target 8g

 

[Doglaner]

Wow! Hidden in plain sight. Just goes to show how we can miss things when they are right in front of our face! I must have read through that recipe a dozen times!

Anyway, there they are. 6kg of morello cherries.

I'll think about the target hops some more. Thanks guys.

Dog.

 

[Hoppy]

Hi,
Target is higher in humulene, which give woody character, and Myrcene, citrus/floral,(which is degraded by heat very quickly) and Amarillo, (also high in myrcene), has a different oil profile, except Myrcene. As Target is used early, all myrcene has pretty much gone, whereas Amarillo is usually used late, this preserves the myrcene, giving different character to beer.
Target is also the hop with the highest level of linalool, your 'floral hoppy' smell so much so it is extracted for perfumes and air fresheners from Target, so the recipe creator would well be on the mark and Target go very well with honey as Myrcene, that is usually boiled off will be retained.
WBR
Hoppy