hop substitution

[damfoose]

Found the following CLICKY for hop substitution, If your anything ike me and decide to brew something thinking yep I have everything in then find your out of a hop variaty then it may be usefull. As I had a large bag of fuggles I was happy enough not to buy any then found it had been attacked by mice so no fuggles in stock. Substitution time then .

 

[evanvine]

I wouldn't consider a mouse attack the end of the world unless they'd eaten the whole lot!
Remove the obvious attack area and carry on as normal, they get boiled don't they.
This is my personal opinion, you will need to do your own thing!

 

[damfoose]

Yep I know its going to get boiled to death but they smelt awfull really nasty pong from them as I think they had been sat a few weeks with mouse pee on them so best action chuck them otherwise I could have made a brew and it could have tasted really bad, Then again you never know it could have been reat but why take the chance.

Anyway the little buggers had already chewed through a load of speciality grain then the hops were an after thought I think. But its all been binned just to be sure, New grains are under the bed out of the way and safe this time :)

 

[evanvine]

Had the problem myself.
I now keep everything in plastic bins!

 

[Wez]

Had the problem myself.
I now keep everything in plastic bins!

Not in summer tho! Even in winter I'd not store hops at my coolest ambient temp? Fridge them at worst freeze them for best :thumb:

Hops in a plastic bin in summer, yuck, I know you said above that "they get boiled" but seriously keep them hops cold! And if you mean grains, I trust you are not boiling those!

 

[corby_brewer]

as soon as my hops are purchased they go straight into the freezer.

 

[evanvine]

Decoction mashing Wez!
Vacuum packed hops don't need chilling or freezing.

 

[Wez]

Vacuum packed hops don't need chilling or freezing.

Never heard that before? Certainly the micro brewery that I use chill all of their vacuum packed hops in large hop fridges and i'm always told to get them in the fridge when I get home.

Stand to be corrected of course..

edit - Had to google this as I'd never heard that vacuum packed hops didnt need cold storage and of course was worried that people might start storing their hops in places which are too warm it looks like you should be storing them as cold as possible, the link below has some interseting information regarding the deterioration of hops, vacuum packing will slow down oxidation but its best to store them at -1 to -21 to slow the process down.

http://brewingtechniques.com/library/ba ... aretz.html

Hope it helps :thumb:

 

[tubby_shaw]

+1 for chilling/freezing hops :thumb:
Even if vacuum packed, hops will rapidly deteriorate if stored at room temperature

 

[evanvine]

Have read the link Wez (with great interest) thank you.
I got the impression that an oxygen free or an inert gas environment was of higher consideration than low temperature.
I also take on board your comment TS.
Maybe I shouldn't post the comments I do as my attitude is totally laid back, irresponsible and not fit for up and comming brewers.
But, damn, I like my HB beer and have learnt a lot from this Forum!