Hi there you jolly brewers out there long time since been on ere but still love it. anyway i used honey instead of sugar in my geordge lager kit back in march its well conditioned in bottles now I OPENED ONE last week omg its ace comes out like a samug**l light beer :thumb: : :party: :drink: recomend it. I used tesc@s own honey x2 full jars alc vol was 6.5% cheers