Electric cars.

[old dog new tricks]

Because 34% of non-EV-buyers view battery life as a concern (the same number that are worried about not being able to charge at home), and at the moment it would be beneficial for encouraging confidence in EVs generally.

Plus having it done in a standard way would generate a ton of useful data across the industry.

Also a battery life tester is a relatively cheap bit of kit, that doesn't take long to use, compared to an equivalent report for an ICE car.

Totally plus one obdII reader can read endless cars little or no investment, not like asking to check the winding on the motors or anything like that the batter SOH is of course a major concern and it would debunk all the scaremongering

 

[Northern_Brewer]

Currently on Autotrader - MG ZS for £17.5k for the headline 198-mile version, and under £20k for the headline 273-mile version, all brand-new. Not the most exciting vehicles the world has ever seen, but fine for commuting or the school run. Remember the average person only does ~140 miles per week, so there's a lot of people who would be fine with even a degraded 198 miles range, particularly as a second car in a household - they'd only be charging it once a week.

 

[MashBag]

Hmm. Has anyone considered history might see EV cars as a fashion bubble. Bit like snow boots. Look good but not ideal to go anywhere

BBC News - BP shuns renewables in return to oil and gas - BBC News
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3374ekd11p o

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Currently on Autotrader - MG ZS for £17.5k for the headline 198-mile version, and under £20k for the headline 273-mile version,

MG started making BEV in 2018 and they soon got a reputation of corroding they may have improved but second hand sales are going to be effected buy it.

Little corrosion protection -

 

[JockyBrewer]

Hmm. Has anyone considered history might see EV cars as a fashion bubble. Bit like snow boots. Look good but not ideal to go anywhere

BBC News - BP shuns renewables in return to oil and gas - BBC News
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3374ekd11p o

They will certainly not be ideal for use underwater after the ice caps melt due to global warming.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

We will still need the parts for our boats

 

[Nicks90]

Hmm. Has anyone considered history might see EV cars as a fashion bubble. Bit like snow boots. Look good but not ideal to go anywhere

BBC News - BP shuns renewables in return to oil and gas - BBC News
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3374ekd11p o

Has anyone considered history might see EV car critics as dinosaurs who destroyed the earth by continuing to be climate deniers and caused a global catastrophe.
Encouraged and fuelled by "big oil" who valued their quarterly profit margins to mega rich shareholders and hedge funds over the health of the planet

 

[Rodcx500z]

One day no matter what we do this planet will die, just enjoy the moment

 

[jof]

One day no matter what we do this planet will die, just enjoy the moment

No, the planet won't die until the sun does.
But we will drive ourselves to extinction/back to the stone age and take a lot of other species with us or a natural disaster will wipe us out.
Either way life on the planet will then get to evolve & recover without us.

 

[Rodcx500z]

So it's all good then, enjoy the ride

 

[MashBag]

No, the planet won't die until the sun does.
But we will drive ourselves to extinction/back to the stone age and take a lot of other species with us or a natural disaster will wipe us out.
Either way life on the planet will then get to evolve & recover without us.

Yup. We are only killing ourselves. The planet will be fine in the grand scale of things. The lawn doesn't die when the ants nest dies.

Ant colonies are a good study for the human race.

 

[JockyBrewer]

It’s our children I worry for.

 

[old dog new tricks]

I am bit sad at the loss of manual gearboxes and clutches as EVs roll out tho.

Yes I am sad but the satisfaction of a well timed gear change or clutch control was nice.

Do i think EVs are the future? Undecided had mine for a year now so feel I can make an informed decision.

The fact that it seems Oil and Gas is back in big business plans and Airports look to expand shows that not everything is electric

 

[JockyBrewer]

I’m in the other camp of not missing gear changes at all. Perhaps it’s because anywhere I go around here means sitting in traffic, and then you just end up on the clutch all the time.

I absolutely want self driving cars as soon as possible. I had the best long drive ever in December when I got on the motorway, turned on adaptive cruise and steering assist and let the car do most of the driving.

 

[old dog new tricks]

I’m in the other camp of not missing gear changes at all. Perhaps it’s because anywhere I go around here means sitting in traffic, and then you just end up on the clutch all the time.

I absolutely want self driving cars as soon as possible. I had the best long drive ever in December when I got on the motorway, turned on adaptive cruise and steering assist and let the car do most of the driving.

I must admit adaptive cruise is superb and do like that, don't get me wrong I do like my current BEV but recent cold weather I miss being able to gently ease the clutch in 2nd to avoid wheel spin in snow and ice, my Kona spins up the front very easily a fault they have addressed in the mk2 version that has reduced torque and added a snow mode
Yes in the city its nice to not have a clutch, but for open roads and fun part of driving I liked a manual. But the instant throttle response is something ICE can only dream about.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Has anyone considered history might see EV car critics as dinosaurs who destroyed the earth by continuing to be climate deniers and caused a global catastrophe.

No because we are going to be forced to use BEV whether we like it or not

 

[Chippy_Tea]

One day no matter what we do this planet will die, just enjoy the moment

Bit off topic but i don't think the planet will die we will be long gone before the sun dies, i mentioned drinking water in another thread here is more about it -

‘Forever chemicals’ found in drinking water sources across England​

Potentially toxic “forever chemicals” have been detected in the drinking water sources at 17 of 18 England’s water companies, with 11,853 samples testing positive, something experts say they are “extremely alarmed” by.
Per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances (PFAS) – a group of 10,000 or so human-made chemicals widely used in industrial processes, firefighting foams and consumer products – were found in samples of raw and treated water tested by water companies last year, according to the Drinking Water Inspectorate (DWI), the Guardian and Watershed Investigations has found.

Despite growing concerns about the health impacts of other PFAS, there are no limits set for the rest of the 10,000 or so substances. Of the 47 PFAS which water companies have been told to look for, 35 were detected and an additional PFAS compound was also found.

Affinity Water appears to have the biggest PFAS problem, with 73 raw water samples above the maximum DWI limits at five sites, followed by Anglian Water with 22 raw samples above the limit from two groundwater sources, according to a DWI report. Southern Water found two samples at or above the top limit in its treated water.

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ound-in-drinking-water-sources-across-england

 

[Rodcx500z]

Just ignore that going green is more important

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Just ignore that going green is more important

They don't want to scare us by telling us this is happening

 

[Rodcx500z]

That i can believe