Double IPA

[Reviled]

'The passion of IPA'

5.07kg Golden Promise
650g Munich II
195g CaraMunich II
325g CaraPils
390g Cane sugar

FWH - 24g Galaxy 13.4%, 12g Simcoe 12.2%
45 - 18g Simcoe 12.2%
30 - 24g Centennial 9.7%
15 - 12g Galaxy 13.4%, 18g Simcoe 12.2%, 24g Centennial 9.7%
5 - 18g Galaxy 13.4%, 24g Simcoe 12.2%, 18g Centennial 9.7%
Dry - 24g Galaxy, 24g Simcoe, 18g Centennial, 12g Columbus

US-05

OG - 1077 and around 150 IBU's

 

[Aleman]

:nono: :nono: APA . . . . APA. . . .

 

[Reviled]

I dunna get it?

Its not an APA, way too big, and it wont be balanced really, itll be a hoppy ******* :grin:

 

[Aleman]

IPA - ONLY Extra pale malt to 1.070, Heavily hopped (up to 300 IBU!!) with Goldings and or Fuggles . . . One bittering hop addition . . . possibly a single dry hop addition. . . . Aged for a year then sent to India.

APA - A complete mish mash of malts (probably to develop the flavours that come from aging),, a complete mish mash of High Alpha hops added throughout the boil with lots at the end . . I think this is just to make drinking it a test of bravery . . . Think Hardcore or Arrogant ******* . . . usually drunk young to get all those 'lovely' hoppy flavours . . . completely unbalanced and unsubtle . .. a massive over reaction to being fed American Standard Beer since prohibition :hmm:

Good article in the September issue of Brewers Contact on IPA's courtesy of Ant Hayes . . . . Arriving on doorsteps of CBA Members Shortly

 

[jamesb]

Good article in the September issue of Brewers Contact on IPA's courtesy of Ant Hayes . . . . Arriving on doorsteps of CBA Members Shortly

I was wondering where it had got to...

 

[Wez]

I was also starting to wonder :hmm:

 

[Aleman]

Sorry . . . some picky git spotted a couple of spelling mistakes in the final draft :whistle:

 

[Reviled]

See I disagree there completely...

There are 3 different styles of IPA according the the BJCP style guidelines, as well as APA

English IPA - More malt balanced, more simple grist and use of english hops, generally not as bitter as the American versions..

American IPA - Still fairly balanced, but loaded with US variety hops, normally citrus with heavy late and possibly dry hopping..

Double IPA - More balanced towards hops with less of a maltback bone and stupid crazy bitterness and excessive late and dry hop aroma.. Intense aroma from either American or UK varietys allthough a citrus character is almost allways present. Yum!

APA - Lower OG and IBU's than an American IPA, more balanced again and more 'quaffable' than an American IPA, still alot of late or dry hopping, allthough not as much again.. Generally an APA isnt going to be over 5.5% and 40 IBU's...

More info here :thumb: http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/style14.php

 

[Aleman]

And the BJCP are - American . . . . Have they even looked at any of the brewery ledgers for the period 1752 (London IPA) to 1822 (Burton IPA) and 1840 (Domestic IPA)? Many of the 'classes' or categories of the BJCP for beer styles are looked at with bemusement over here, it is clear that members of the BJCP really have little knowledge of British beer style . . . or history.

 

[Reviled]

Thats a fair call, but instead of denouncing the American Styles they do have, why not just try and push for more english styles??

I mean, I can tell the difference between the 4 above styles in a big way, and in saying that, I would love for there to be more diversity in the english styles!!

 

[tubby_shaw]

There doesn't need to be any more "English" styles, we have what we have :thumb:
There are other styles to brew instead, such as APA's or Australian ales or Belgian ales etc etc I don't think there is a need to invent more :wha:

 

[ano]

Words can change meaning over time, particularly where there's commerical benefit to be had. So IPA now apparently includes Deuchars (4.4% in bottles? less in the cask IIRC), Greene King etc. all of which bear little resemblance to their ancestors. That's what IPA means to the man in the street at least. APA seems to be kind of what it says on the tin, a pale ale with american hops...

I can't quite see the trouble, Double IPA's a young style but obviously distinct. When IPA came about did all those brewing October beer for domestic consumption raise their malt shovels in anger?