COVID19 Positives

[Clint]

Ghostship...thank you for that amazing,easy to understand post.
I'm not science minded at all but to me the numbers didn't seem to add up and the way deaths "with" the virus were being included...my eventual take on things... misinformation, withholding information...and a smattering of lies.
Oh and the lizard Blair can go back under his stone ..

 

[obscure]

The saved travel costs is the only main advantage for me of being at home. With the kids at school now there are no distractions, which is good and I was very very busy on Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday this week although I’m quite a lot quieter today and tomorrow.

However, I miss having colleagues there to ask questions to, have a bit of banter with etc, especially those that don’t work in my team/department who I would chat with in the kitchen or at the photocopier.

I don’t reckon I’ll be back in the office full time for a long time. 3 days form home and 2 in the office or something similar would probably suit me well.

Working from home, isn’t for everyon, I know a fair few colleagues who have young children who are looking forward to getting back to the office.
likewise those living in shared houses. I’m in a fairly fortunate position no young children and a dedicated home office to work from. I’m not a huge fam on human interaction, so for me working from home has being great.

I think where there's a business where lots have worked from home and less have actually had to keep going in because they can't possibly work from home,if or when the homeworkers return there could be a real change of atmosphere in some places...I think some homeworkers won't want to return....it's just an impression in getting...

Your not wrong the reality is that a lot of jobs can be done from home. This time last year I would be cramming into an overcrowded train every morning and night. Last week with the hot weather the chances are good that their would be major delays, on a few occasions last summer aI didn’t get home until after 8 o’clock in the evening due to the long delays (after leaving the house at 6 in the morning). All so I can sit at a desk looking at a computer screen. I’m still getting up at six but can go swimming first thing, then have a relaxed breakfast and still start work at 8 on the dot. I finish at four, if I need to finish something off I can do so and not have to worry that it will add an extra 40 minutes to my commute time as I don’t risk missing my train.

 

[Graz]

Thanks @GhostShip , very interesting read and you obviously know your stuff. Here's hoping that is the outcome for the next few months and the eventually suppression / demise of Covid-19. Based on what you are saying how important is a vaccine as I know a lot of money / effort is being ploughed into this but if Covid-19 is in its final throws by the time it comes about how many will actually want it? Note that I'm not an anti-vaxer by any stretch just interested as to how it would go.

 

[Rodcx500z]

I now have an understanding of the hood winkery thats going on, being retired it wont effect me to much if at all, its the thousands who have lost and will lose ttheir jobs

 

[dad_of_jon]

Despite Eurovision & my Eurovision holiday being cancelled still managed a trip abroad and have bought a portable dual power chiller so when we do go away we can stay in the hotel and chill with a few homebrews instead of risking a uk hotel bar. Also working from home and will possibly retire rather than go back into the office. Also drunk more beer, managed 96 units in one week (Am now close to pre lockdown level). Love the lack of office commute. I can have a quick lunchtime cycle along the Loughor estuary during my lunch hour. No parking at work worries. Most negatives I've managed to mitigate or am in the process of doing so. Always someone home now for parcel deliveries.
Brewing a bit more beer.
I get a mid night shift break sleep in my own bed rather than have to sleep in my car.

 

[Clint]

DOJ...it's not the same without Wogan so you're missing nowt.

 

[GhostShip]

I really enjoyed being at home. Was lucky enough to be fairly busy throughout the lockdown period yet still found plenty of time to sit in the sun and get some jobs done around the house. Garden has never looked better and my 'to-do' list is a bit smaller than it was.

Home brewing was also made much less stressful - instead of trying to work around only being able to do it at weekends, I could fit it in around work, which I really enjoyed. That then kept my weekends clear for other things.

Returned to the office this week and it's like I was never away. As it's my business, I'm seriously considering giving up the office and moving to home on a permanent basis - maybe at the start of 2021. I've discussed it with a few clients and they honestly couldn't care less - as long as the work is done to the same standard (which it would be), it's just not seen as an issue anymore, following the pandemic.

 

[Clint]

The thing is some are going to make billions/trillions out of the so called vaccine...if the virus can be suppressed naturally...what else will be in the vaccine? Airline,travel, hospitality will all return.

 

[GhostShip]

Thanks @GhostShip , very interesting read and you obviously know your stuff. Here's hoping that is the outcome for the next few months and the eventually suppression / demise of Covid-19. Based on what you are saying how important is a vaccine as I know a lot of money / effort is being ploughed into this but if Covid-19 is in its final throws by the time it comes about how many will actually want it? Note that I'm not an anti-vaxer by any stretch just interested as to how it would go.

Sorry guys, maybe I should have been clearer - I didn't write that piece! It was taken from Twitter but was written by a confirmed retired scientist. I just thought it was really interesting which is why I posted it here.

 

[terrym]

Sorry guys, maybe I should have been clearer - I didn't write that piece! It was taken from Twitter but was written by a confirmed retired scientist. I just thought it was really interesting which is why I posted it here.

Dont be concerned, it was clear. But italics might have helped regarding the extensive quote. Not too late to edit fix.

 

[Graz]

Sorry guys, maybe I should have been clearer - I didn't write that piece! It was taken from Twitter but was written by a confirmed retired scientist. I just thought it was really interesting which is why I posted it here.

Silly me, should have read the first line a bit more carefully, but anyway an interesting read.

 

[Falco]

Sorry guys, maybe I should have been clearer - I didn't write that piece! It was taken from Twitter but was written by a confirmed retired scientist. I just thought it was really interesting which is why I posted it here.

Hi @GhostShip, any chance you can link to the Twitter user who posted the original comment?

 

[GhostShip]

Hi @GhostShip, any chance you can link to the Twitter user who posted the original comment?

Search for;
@MichaelYeadon3

He only posted the article 2 days ago, so easy to find.

 

[Falco]

Thanks @GhostShip

 

[uDicko]

Despite Eurovision & my Eurovision holiday being cancelled still managed a trip abroad and have bought a portable dual power chiller so when we do go away we can stay in the hotel and chill with a few homebrews instead of risking a uk hotel bar.

What's this portable dual powered chiller you speak of?

 

[Horners]

I have to say that Covid has not given me any life positives, it's mostly been negative. My wife and I are of an age where we have had to keep a low profile and I have a few health issues which hasn't helped too. We have lost holidays and had restricted access to our family, although that has eased a little recently. Our social life has taken a dive too, and I have not been in a restaurant or pub for months. Day trips to London and other places to do stuff have stopped. I can do jobs around the house anytime since I am retired, so there was no benefit there. We were going to get the kitchen revamped but have now put that on hold.
But in an effort to be positive, I have found daily watering has meant my potted tomato plants benefit from daily watering with bigger tomatoes, I have appreciated my allotment more this year since it has been somewhere to go and glad I didn't give it up, someone gave me 6 minikegs having had to buy his beer from a local brewery and that how the beer came at the time when the pubs were shut, and we have found buying bread flour in large bags off Amazon is cheaper than buying it from shops, and the bread is just as good. But sadly that's about it.

@terrym

Because we normally go abroad nearly always miss the best bit of our toms have hundreds this year without coming back to a load of split fruit/ dead plants

 

[Horners]

For me:

Plus column re lockdown: Cash - my commute into London from zone 4 is a modest £14 a day return, throw in a coffee and a bacon roll and you are at £20; throw in a couple or three pints at lunchtime and something solid and you are at £40, throw in anything social post work/ pint on way home and its a few quid more so you are talking conservatively £1000 per month.

More pluses: We've barely had the same tea twice. Totally cooking from scratch most of the time. I have two teenage lads and in 5 months we've just finished a second bag of oven chips. Also on the eating front we maybe sit down as a family for a proper meal 3 or 4 times a week rather than just Sunday.

Someone else in this thread mentioned sertraline which is something I know about. The change in anxiety caused by Covid is different for everyone but for me I've found that some of the benefits above have outweighed more long term concerns re employment, economy etc such that actually feel more relaxed than pre-lockdown.

As others have said a lot of home maintenance has been done and I have had a great enjoyment of the garden..

On the con side: have spent most of my adult life in the pub and so this has been a very strange time. In a selfish way I have had cancelled my season tix at Crystal Palace, various test match tickets for me and the kids, Killers gig at Emirates, New Order at O2, two weeks in Zakynthos and my Mum & Dads Golden Wedding - first world problems compared with some folk I know but would still prefer it if we could get back to normal.

 

[Horners]

Don't forget to investigate the various tax breaks you get if you permanently work from home. They aren't massive, but it all helps.

Its true but it is buttons. More pertinently don't forget it may invalidate your home insurance.

 

[scomet]

Stay home brew beer talk to the chickens! what's not to like.....

 

[Shirley Bassett]

In the last 5 months I haven’t heard a single “Mood Hoover” (suck you in and drag you down type) complain that they are flued up.