County lines drug dealing

[Chippy_Tea]

Not only is this good news for our area it should also give others involved something to think about, the local police have clamped down hard on it and seem to be finding plenty of people involved i am sure plenty of members have the same problems with drugs in their area and its nice to read something is being done.

A spokesman from the Serious and Organised Crime Team said: “This is another positive result in our ongoing fight against those involved in county lines.

Yasmin Ho 48

Two people involved in organised crime have today been sentenced to a total of eight-and-a-half years for their involvement in a county lines drug dealing operation.

Yasmin Ho, 48, and Austin Murphy, 20, were sentenced at Preston Crown Court after pleading guilty at an earlier hearing to conspiracy to supply heroin and crack cocaine.

Ho, of Meetings View, Barrow, was sentenced to five-and-a-half years and Murphy, of Bridge Street, Birkenhead was sentenced to three years.

The defendants were part of a County Lines network branded the MO Line.

Cumbria police identified that a mobile telephone was advertising the sale of heroin and crack to drug users in the Barrow area on April 19.

Investigations into the MO line led officers to the area of Ewan Close, Barrow in Furness.

At 9.50pm on April 19, officers conducted a warrant at Ewan Close, Murphy and Ho were located.

A search recovered just under 500 wraps of class A drugs with a street value of over £5,000.

A spokesman from the Serious and Organised Crime Team said: “This is another positive result in our ongoing fight against those involved in county lines.

“County lines is exploitative drug supply and is devastating to local communities, well beyond those who are directly involved in the local drugs scene.

“We will continue to target those at every level of the supply chain in order to dismantle organised crime groups.

“We continue to urge anyone with knowledge of drug dealing or drug supply in South Cumbria, and Cumbria as a whole, to get in touch.”

County lines drug pair jailed for a total of eight-and-a-half years - cumbriacrack.com

 

[johncrobinson]

48yrs old "only on a good day".

The amount of criminality surrounding drugs is unreal.
I have had in the past living close to me in London dealers operating with total impunity. Its not nice and was one of many reasons to leave London.

However when the state actively encourages and creates a "no hope" generation what else can one expect.As a youngster years ago I had doors open for me that today's youngsters could only dream of.

Think about it,!!!!! Who wants to watch adverts for Porsche and Ferrari whilst grafting your nuts off on minimum wage.

Its now got to the point where I no longer have a solution.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

.As a youngster years ago I had doors open for me that today's youngsters could only dream of.

I don't think i have ever had a door opened for me i have been employed all of my working life apart for 12 months when i was laid off at the shipyard in barrow along with 10,000 others.

Think about it,!!!!! Who wants to watch adverts for Porsche and Ferrari whilst grafting your nuts off on minimum wage.

Well I've done it (and don't imagine i am the only one here) when i came out of the shipyard there was no minimum wage i got out of bed for **** wages which when i was employed in the shipyard i would have laughed at mortgages don't pay themselves so i had no choice i took what i could get and me and the wife managed to keep a roof over our heads and bring up a family on relatively poor wages, if the local drug dealer had asked me at the time to do a bit of dealing for him to make some extra cash i would have told him where to shove it.

 

[starseeker]

Like a lot of other people on here ,my hourly pay was poor ,interest rates soared to 15 per cent and my marriage failed ,the solution was to work 55 to 65 hour weeks to get my self through it .
Sometimes in life you have to get your head down and get on with it ,rather than think poor me ,i want £1000 for a three day week .

 

[johncrobinson]

Good for you Chippy.

I can tell you are a good father.

I am 64 yrs old now well past my employable prime,Disabled and with multiple health conditions.I should be retiring in about 10 months time,But our government has added another year to my servitude and poverty.

Fighting in the face of adversity is what we British are well used to,As a young man yes i would sacrifice myself for Queen and Country.
Now my only remaining loyalty is to HM the Queen.
This government,And any Labour or lib-dem or Conservative gets my whole harted contempt.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I am 64 yrs old now well past my employable prime,Disabled and with multiple health conditions.I should be retiring in about 10 months time,But our government has added another year to my servitude and poverty.

I hit the big 60 this year i am reasonably fit and my job isn't too physical so with luck i will be able to carry on for the next 7 years until i retire, i didn't know until fairly recently the age had risen from 65 to 67 (i thought i had dodged that bullet) and i whole heartedly agree with your statement - "Labour or lib-dem or Conservative gets my whole hearted contempt"

 

[johncrobinson]

Hope you can carry on Chippy,This site would not be the same without you:hat:

 

[starseeker]

Hope you can carry on Chippy,This site would not be the same without you:hat:

Totally agree there ,this is a great site with in my mind very fair moderation .

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Thanks @johncrobinson & @starseeker the mod team will appreciate the feedback.

As was said in the home brew community thread in the Snug "It seems to me that there are some genuinely splendid people who hang around this forum" and its true there isn't a lot to moderate in fact i tend to spend most of my time moving the odd thread into its proper forum (its an OCD thing) and authorising new members to try and keep the spammers out (that is a constant battle) fortunately fallouts are a bit of a rarity here unlike in the football forum i used to moderate which was awful and was like a thankless full time job.

 

[Shirley Bassett]

Pre Covid I used to work as a contractor all over the UK. When we were in Barrow we used to watch the Euros and World Cup matches in the Weatherspoons.

The drug dealers would wander in about every 90 minutes. They had quite a flash Beemer.

Stood out like the b*ll*cks on a bulldog.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

The drug dealers would wander in about every 90 minutes. They had quite a flash Beemer.

I get the feeling they think they are never going to get caught as there is so much of it about and the police are too thin on the ground.

 

[johncrobinson]

Dead right Chippy its the arrogance of these people that gets my goat.They seem to think they own the place.

How they get away with it for years on end is beyond me.After all its not like they are covert about their activities.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I honestly think there is so much of it about and so many dealing the police cannot cope so target the big boys and are not too fussed about the minnows at the bottom of the ladder, I gont know why they don't legalise cannabis this would get rid of a lot of the problem.

 

[Leon103]

I honestly think there is so much of it about and so many dealing the police cannot cope so target the big boys and are not too fussed about the minnows at the bottom of the ladder, I gont know why they don't legalise cannabis this would get rid of a lot of the problem.

But what other problems will it cause though?

 

[marshbrewer]

But what other problems will it cause though?

Although this is a little mercenary, fortunately for us, lots of places are doing this so we can stand back and learn from them. Portugal, various US States, etc

My gut instinct is that legalisation of all drugs would overall be a benefit ( i.e. the benefits would outweigh the costs) but I fully understand why people are instinctively alarmed by the suggestion. Note that legalisation doesn't necessarily mean complete liberalisation - for instance booze is legal but tightly regulated and controlled; the trick being to find the sweet spot so that you don't create a black market by over regulation / over taxing.

However, the fact that various other societies are trying this out means we can watch and learn.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

@Leon103
I don't believe it's caused major problems in countries where it is legal but I have done no research so that may be wrong.
I don't see how legalising it can make the situation any worse than it is now the funds from cannabis will be used to buy class A drugs so if legal it would reduce the dealer's means of getting these drugs and the government would get tax on legal cannabis sales.
I haven't a clue if all this would work but it's got to be better than the current situation

 

[itry]

the war on drugs is massive and expensive. imagen what they could do with the money they spent on the fight. then imagen what they could do with the profits if they legalised it all? you would be creating a safe farm able product for the fair trade farmers and put money into poverty country's( peru Bolivia Columbia) creating a legal income. putting the death dealing cartels out of business. putting local drug dealers out of business. taking a massive chunk of "black secret money" from Governments and making it a source of accountable revenue. Selling a clean safe( safe as in 100% what its is supposed to be with out being cut with xxxx) product. i think after we got over the shock of actual drugs are now legal with in our life time it would level out and not become a novelty. i believe it would also make a safer environment aswell as treatment for existing addicts. dont get me wrong i dont really believe in it and morally it dosnt sit well as i like the rest of you despise what they are and what they stand for and what they do.

just for your information
3.5 grams of skunk weed is around £40
0.9 grams of cocaine is £100

do you in all honesty give a **** if a scaffolder on a friday night is forcing chemical crystals up his nose? if its your kids your worried about education will be the key. same as sex and booze.

booze is taxed and so are cigarettes. they are both addictive and kill thousands.

if it was legal would you try it just to see what all the fuss is about?

just looking at the big picture

 

[Brew_DD2]

Decriminalisation rather than legalisation would be a big start. Allows huge amounts funds to be diverted to treatment, and reduces prison population substantially. Has been very successful in Portugal and Switzerland.

It's been recommended to government after government, but unfortunately politicians see it as a vote loser. None of them want to be seen to be "soft on drugs". Given the levels of drug deaths in the UK (Scotland especially), we can see how well being tough on drugs is going.

 

[TonyT]

Decriminalisation rather than legalisation would be a big start. Allows huge amounts funds to be diverted to treatment, and reduces prison population substantially. Has been very successful in Portugal and Switzerland.

It's been recommended to government after government, but unfortunately politicians see it as a vote loser. None of them want to be seen to be "soft on drugs". Given the levels of drug deaths in the UK (Scotland especially), we can see how well being tough on drugs is going.

Agreed. It’s been legal in Canada for almost three years. According to my source in Quebec, vendors have to be licensed and there are various rules about how the stuff is stored, packaged and marketed. It’s available in various formats, ready rolled joints, gummy sweets and even cannabis pop! The packaging rules are quite strict. Apparently (anecdotal) there have been instances in the US where, due to attractive packaging, kids have got hold of the gummy sweets and eaten them thinking that they are regular sweets.

But overall, it seems that people prefer to buy the stuff legally.

 

[Brew_DD2]

I'm not advocating for legalisation, but rather decriminalisation. Though wouldn't be overly averse to cannabis legalisation with stricts curbs on THC concentration etc.