Cold steeping

[Covrich]

I am weather providing (never had to say that before ) will be having a go at a stout this week at some point..

But I have heard about cold steeping or at least steeping the chocolate and roasted barley seperately.

The idea was with about 500grams of these grains to put them in a pot of water which ill probably boil first and cool?? at a ratio of 5 times per gram so 2.5ltrs of water at room temp and sit overnight.

What I am unsure of is do I add this at the end of the boil.?? I assume this will still need to be boiled off somewhat? or even separately for 10 mins or so?

I need to take this into consideration for my water quantities also for the stout as I will essentially put less water into the 50litre pot for full BIAB and aim for a final of 20ltrs.

I also read doing cold steep will extract no sugars how ever small from the specialty grain.. as this is my first go on my burner and pot I might shove an extra 200 grams of malt in anyway just until I find where I am with this.

Does that sound the right method anyway? boil and just add to the wort at the end? Sorry for the verbose questioning!

 

[clibit]

I do a separate steep of dark grains usually if I make a stout or porter. I don't cold steep. But not too hot. You need to deduct the water used from the sparge for the main mash. Add the steep wort to the boil, you can add it at the,start or later, just needs about 15 mins to kill everything.

 

[Covrich]

Hmm I was going to steep in a smaller pot of I only need say a 15 min boil I might boil that separate and add to the fv before the main wort goes in.

 

[clibit]

You can do that but a longer boil is probably better?

 

[Covrich]

Yeah, you see this is the thing I read so many conflicting things thats why I kinda asked here. I heard someone suggest you don't boil at all just add the grain tea into the fermenter and if you want just pasturise it for 5 mins.. doesn't sound right to me..

I will probably raise the temp to mash out and then bung the steeped water in then..

 

[clibit]

I woukdnt take any risks myself, I'd boil it. I would either add it to the main boil or do a separate boil, I've done both successfully.

 

[McMullan]

I agree with clibit. Don't risk adding it to the FV. Boil it. I pour my cold steeped goodness into the boil early. Grains are covered in bugs. 15min in the boil is no guarantee.

 

[Covrich]

Cheers thanks both of you, in fact I think it was McMullan yourself you happened to bring up the cold steeping on another thread which is why I am actually trying it.. I have little no reference to what to comapre it too.. I think ill bung it in post mash out if I do that and boil it off

I hope I get enough colour out of it I haven't got asny irish moss left so I was relying on it being less than translucent