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craigite

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Well, finally got round to making a bit of a control box for my mainly plastic brewery.

The control box.
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This is what I cobbled together. Not much but it made a big difference to the brewing experience.


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I love the way you've just used a kettle as it is as the HERMS unit. Its interesting how people visualise the exact same setup in so many different ways that hardly any 2 breweries end up looking the same.
 
retourrbx said:
i've got one on order to do just that - did you use a SSR or go direct to the STC?

Sorry, but I never remember technical names etc.
If you are asking if the HLT controller (the one above the HLT socket) powers the HLT element directly; YES. The wattage of the kettle element is within the operational limits of the temperature controller.

For the HERMS 'kettle' the PID can not handle such wattage so the power goes through a Solid State Relay. It is fixed to the back of the aluminium plate which acts as a heat sink for both it and the AC variable controller.
 
retourrbx said:
looking to do same for HLT - is it a 2.2Kw elemen?

The HLT is just a standard cheep kettle element.
Just checked; it about 25.5ohm so that would be about 2 to 2.2kW

My 27litre 3kW buffalo boiler. I've fitted a bypass switch to the boiler thermostat to stop it switching itself off (which sometimes happens with higher strength brews) and I can turn down the power of the element once I get to the boil with the AC Variable Controller.
 
craigite said:
I spotted the idea on one of alemen's posts, however I am sure he mentioned some issues. :wha: :hmm:
The only issue is to do with Generated interference on radio and televisions. in order to fully comply with the regulations a snubber network needs to be built to prevent it, and these often end up costing more than the actual Phase Angle controller. Mine doesn't have a snubber network and so far none of the neighbours have complained :whistle: :whistle: . That is a good price for a UA PAR though . . . . although Under Control have one that is on special offer ;)
 
Aleman said:
craigite said:
I spotted the idea on one of alemen's posts, however I am sure he mentioned some issues. :wha: :hmm:
The only issue is to do with Generated interference on radio and televisions. in order to fully comply with the regulations a snubber network needs to be built to prevent it, and these often end up costing more than the actual Phase Angle controller. Mine doesn't have a snubber network and so far none of the neighbours have complained :whistle: :whistle: . That is a good price for a UA PAR though . . . . although Under Control have one that is on special offer ;)

I have checked and found no interference at home at all, radio, tv and even wi-fi all ok so far. But that's just me at my home.

Thanks for update, now I will have to look up 'snubber'. You seem to have me googling words today :roll:
 
Svarrogh said:
How fast you can rise temperature of worth with your kettle herms? Great setup!

Don't know. :wha:
I suppose that would depend on how much of a temp rise was needed and what speed I run the pump.

If I was to guess I'd say about one deg C in well under five mins. I'll time it next brew and report back. Oh dear, I suppose I'd better brew this weekend. :eek: :party: Thanks :D :thumb:
 
Svarrogh said:
How fast you can rise temperature of worth with your kettle herms? Great setup!
Don't know about the Kettle HERMS . . .but Mine which uses a Kettle element Can push 1C per minute . . . and probably faster if I was to run the pump faster
 
Aleman said:
Svarrogh said:
How fast you can rise temperature of worth with your kettle herms? Great setup!
Don't know about the Kettle HERMS . . .but Mine which uses a Kettle element Can push 1C per minute . . . and probably faster if I was to run the pump faster

Oh well if that's a challenge :party: Time to brew :D

As the heating up of a mass is a relatively simple change in energy calculation, the only reason my system could be slower is if my mash mass is larger or my heat loss is greater. As my pipe lengths are short I'd be quite happy to agree the one deg per min is a reasonable figure.

Really will have to brew this weekend now :thumb:
 

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