Cider,yeast,CML

[Clint]

Hello all,
After bottling my ex Moor gold clone earlier I was bored but didn't have enough time to put a brew on...perusing the forum I started reading a few turbo cider threads..
I HAD to nip out so sneaked 20 litres of apple juice into the trolley...Wilco were a waste of time...no dextrose or cider yeast!
I have a packet of CML kristalweisen yeast and a few odds n sods kit yeasts knocking about. ..or should I wait and order something more suitable?
Has anyone used CML cider yeast?
Edit...just had a look..their cider yeast comes in 5g packets...is this enough for a 20 litre batch?

Cheers

Clint

 

[MrRook]

The last Cider that I did was fermented with lager yeast at lager temperature. I was quite happy with it.

 

[Drunkula]

their cider yeast comes in 5g packets...is this enough for a 20 litre batch?

Yeah - it's enough. I've done 50 litres from a 5g packet rehydrated and split between two fermenters and they got down to 1010 in 2 days.

 

[Nicks90]

usually use a notty ale yeast for my TC brews.
Basically anything fairly neutral or with a sweeter flavour profile will do. Unless you want a mega dry cider, in which case use a cider or champagne yeast

 

[Frogbrew]

CML cider yeast is great IMO. I use it all the time and put another batch on top of the first after racking, works fine and tastes good, clean ferment too.

 

[AdeDunn]

If you like your cider super dry, you'll probably like the CML Cider Yeast. Unfortunately my one attempt at a TC fell off a cliff at about 1 month in the bottle, and went down the drain.

These days, I'd probably be tempted to use a Saison yeast, it's just so forgiving. If you Google, plenty of folks getting good results with yeasts like Belle Saison.

 

[Clint]

My CML order has arrived...so I got my 20l of juice,my cider yeast and some nutrient. ...what else should I add...strong tea? Pectolase?

 

[marshbrewer]

I'd add;

Strong tea or wine tannin
Juice of a lemon or citric acid
Maybe a small amount (teaspoon or so) of glycerol for mouth feel, although I have my doubts it really does anything.

I wouldn't bother with pectolase with normal supermarket apple juice.

 

[AdeDunn]

I've used glycerol for mouth feel in mead, it does give a thicker mouth feel. You have to be careful how much you use though, as it also flavours a bit. Not sure you'd want a thicker mouth feel in cider any way.

Good luck Clint, hope you have better luck with it that I did. lol

 

[Clint]

Thanks! How much tea,citric please? Should I add nutrient...if so how much?

 

[marshbrewer]

I put 1/2 a teaspoon of citric acid in a 5L batch; same with the nutrient, IIRC.

 

[Clint]

So x4....and the tea?

 

[Frogbrew]

I reckon so Clint, 2tsp citric or a juiced lemon, couple of tsp nutrient although some don't add any but I always have. Pectolase if you want but again some don't bother if its just clear apple juice you're using.
I usually add 2 tbag in 250 ml for a 5ltr batch so upscale to your 20ltr.

 

[Clint]

Cheers! This is going on later...
20l juice
2 tsp nutrient
2 tsp citric acid
8 teabag black tea

 

[jceg316]

I've recently got into TC making, it's a good way to make something "easy" between brews. My first was just apple juice and MJ cider yeast. It's nice, lacks a bit of dimension, but still a pleasant drink and probably a bit young still. The MJ yeast is very dry. I put another one on using 2 different brands of apple juice, some sugar, a strong cup of tea, and pitched the MJ yeast dregs from batch 1.

I'd like to make a sweeter cider so will probably try a beer yeast next time.

 

[Frogbrew]

I've recently got into TC making, it's a good way to make something "easy" between brews. My first was just apple juice and MJ cider yeast. It's nice, lacks a bit of dimension, but still a pleasant drink and probably a bit young still. The MJ yeast is very dry. I put another one on using 2 different brands of apple juice, some sugar, a strong cup of tea, and pitched the MJ yeast dregs from batch 1.

I'd like to make a sweeter cider so will probably try a beer yeast next time.

For a sweeter cider I add 1 sweetener tab per 500ml to my tea when I make up, so for an 8ltr batch which is my usual I add 16 tabs, not over sweet but less harsh if that makes sense.

 

[Nicks90]

I usually sweeten when it comes to bottling, as I use lots of different apple juices flavourings and yeasts. So the end results are always a bit different.
Always worth tasting once its ready to bottle and make the final decision then.