Brew your own book ...........

[Baz Chaz]

The book I oredered, Brew your own British Real Ale by Graham Wheeler has arrived this morning :thumb:

but ............. :wha:

not sure I like what I read :hmm:

Bottling ......

"ordinary beers need a week or two in a cask, strong beers a month"

"it will take about six weeks for the bottles to come into condition"

thats two bloody months from brewing :cry:

doesn't this man know I've the patience of a two year old :lol:

 

[unclepumble]

The book I oredered, Brew your own British Real Ale by Graham Wheeler has arrived this morning :thumb:

but ............. :wha:

not sure I like what I read :hmm:

Bottling ......

"ordinary beers need a week or two in a cask, strong beers a month"

"it will take about six weeks for the bottles to come into condition"

thats two bloody months from brewing :cry:

doesn't this man know I've the patience of a two year old :lol:

Ready in show condition and ready to drink can be 2 seperate issues that can easily be seperated.

Once you brew a few more it becomes less of an issue.

UP

 

[hairybiker]

Just don't try wine making then, the 6 month- year wait drove me crazy :drunk: :drink:

I find that I start to drink it early and by the time I have nearly finished the barrel it is just starting to taste the best :grin:

As UP said once you have done 2 or 3 batches and they are ALL conditioning then it isn't so much of an issue, but when you let it get low/start out the tendency is to drink it then think about brewing more. :shock:

Having gotten back in to the brewing habit after a break I now have 3 on the go, a lager (in a cornie) than needs chilled, a brew that has been conditioning for about 3 weeks and one that was barreled yesterday (Just as my other barrel was empty :rofl: timing is important :lol: )

Having had a rummage in the attic I have found another 2 barrels unfortunately I am out of malt But after some ebaying I can now afford to buy another bag :party:

 

[Baz Chaz]

Just don't try wine making then, the 6 month- year wait drove me crazy :drunk: :drink:

:shock: that would be a struggle

my first bottling 27th August 6 bottles left
2nd bottling 15th Sept 18 bottles left

not supped 'em all myself :whistle: had some help : but building up stocks

It was more of a bit of self depreciation and a laugh than anything ......... mainly because there's no way I'll be waiting 2 months to see how the beers turning out :lol:

 

[Dunfie]

What issue are you reading? Graham Wheelers books are great but once you have done a few of your own brews and start comparing stories with other brewers you soon realise that there is more than one way to skin a cat.

As for maturing the beer in a cask before bottling. I personally bottle straight from primary by batch priming and have had no compaints.

However, does beer taste better if you leave it a couple months? It depends on the beer but on the majority of occassions I would say - yes. You just need to plan ahead and have the stocks in place.

 

[hairybiker]

Just don't try wine making then, the 6 month- year wait drove me crazy :drunk: :drink:

my first bottling 27th August 6 bottles left
2nd bottling 15th Sept 18 bottles left

Ahh a slow drinker then :thumb:

I find a barrel (40 ish pints) lasts about 3 weeks unless it is particularly good Then about 2 weeks :shock:

Hmm reminds me of the MP sketch with "Mr Smokes-too-much" should I cut down :lol:

 

[Sean_Mc]

Same here good ones tend to get drained more quickly than what's probably good for me.

I find any brew that uses cascade needs 4-6 weeks if not longer to condition to my taste

 

[Moley]

Just don't try wine making then, the 6 month- year wait drove me crazy :drunk: :drink:

:shock: that would be a struggle

No it wouldn't, but with wine or beer the answer is to make it faster than you can drink it, so get your DJs or FVs re-loaded as soon as you've bottled.

With winemaking, bang through a succession of juice wines. From starting, Wurzel's Orange can be drinkable in a month and good to drink in a couple of months, so if you've got a steady supply you can afford to leave a few jars alone for a few months.

However, with beers, and especially as a new disciple of the Dark Side, regular quality testing is almost mandatory. Get more brews on and try to just test a pint or two a week for the first month.

Hmm reminds me of the MP sketch with "Mr Smokes-too-much" should I cut down :lol:

What a silly bunt

 

[Aleman]

Don't attempt a Russian Imperial Stout then . . . . 12 months in cask followed by a further 12 months in bottle . . . and improves for 2-3 years after that . . .The longest I've left it in bottles is 13 years . . . still a good beer after all that time.

Graham's advice is sound . . . however it does follow best practice from the days when the publican used to bottle beer for the breweries . . . So it would arrive at the pub in cask . . . and then be bottled. . . . before being sold for carry out. . . . and beer treated this way does taste different to beer that has had 6 days in the FV then bottled and drunk 2 weeks later . . . However . . . beer that has had 10-14 days on primary, and then bottled and conditioned for 14 days tastes pretty much the same as cask conditioned and then bottled. So the extended time on primary gives the yeast time to clean up after itself . . . which is the same as allowing it to do so in cask.

 

[Baz Chaz]

What issue are you reading?

It's the 3rd edition and to be honest it's pretty much reinforcing what I've picked up from this forum :thumb: there's plenty of recipes to browse through, it's more of a coffee table book if you will

..... but with wine or beer the answer is to make it faster than you can drink it, so get your DJs or FVs re-loaded as soon as you've bottled.

I can certainly give that a go, already decided to get another FV :thumb:

..... However, with beers, and especially as a new disciple of the Dark Side, regular quality testing is almost mandatory.

I will bear that particular rule in mind and follow it assiduously :whistle:

 

[broadfordbrewer]

The book I oredered, Brew your own British Real Ale by Graham Wheeler has arrived this morning :thumb:

but ............. :wha:

not sure I like what I read :hmm:

So what you are saying is...... you'd like to sell your book to me? for around five english pounds? Or am I picking up the wrong signals? I have a lovely coffee table and it would have a happy life :whistle:

 

[Baz Chaz]

The book I oredered, Brew your own British Real Ale by Graham Wheeler has arrived this morning :thumb:

but ............. :wha:

not sure I like what I read :hmm:

So what you are saying is...... you'd like to sell your book to me? for around five english pounds? Or am I picking up the wrong signals? I have a lovely coffee table and it would have a happy life :whistle:

they say god loves a tryer



keep on trying :lol:


it's reading about long waiting times I don't like ............ so that bit will quite likely be ignored :lol:

 

[broadfordbrewer]

[quote="Baz Chaz":16oixhub]The book I oredered, Brew your own British Real Ale by Graham Wheeler has arrived this morning :thumb:

but ............. :wha:

not sure I like what I read :hmm:

So what you are saying is...... you'd like to sell your book to me? for around five english pounds? Or am I picking up the wrong signals? I have a lovely coffee table and it would have a happy life :whistle:

they say god loves a tryer



keep on trying :lol:


it's reading about long waiting times I don't like ............ so that bit will quite likely be ignored :lol:[/quote:16oixhub]


:lol: :rofl:

 

[BigYin]

I bought that book too - only about a week ago.

So far I haven't read much of it :lol: :whistle:

I will though...