Brew Day! Landlord Clone

[MartinHaworth]

Pale Malt (Maris Otter) (grams) 4250
Black Malt (grams) 30

Start of Boil
Goldings Hops 33 (grams)
Styrian Goldings 36 (grams)

Last Ten Minutes
Styrian Goldings 24 (grams)

Boiler on with 30 litres of treated water - 8am.

Started mash at 8.30am in 10lt of 70 celsius water.

90 minutes later. 10am. squeezed bag and dunk sparged in 5 lt of 80 celsius water for 10 minutes. Meantime, started to heat up wort from first runnings.

10.15, second dunk sparge in a further 5 lt of 80 celsius water.


I got the kit pack from Worcester Hop Shop, and was initially confused by the hops labelled 'bobek', but google is my friend, and revealed them as styrian golding.

Boil achieved at 10.45am - 21 litres of wort over 2 pans - this is the maximum i can do on my domestic stove. i wrote eslewhere about using my coleman stove outside, but the weather is threatening today. .Bittering hops added 10.45am.

So far so good!

Martin

 

[MartinHaworth]

12.00 noon Wiraflock added
12.10 last hops
12.20 2 pans in bath of cold water

 

[rodabod]

I'd be interested to know how this tastes. I'm too scared to try a bitter yet, as there is so much subtlety in a good pint of Landlord or Harvey's that I think it would be easy to get wrong.

Having drunk quite a bit of Harvey's recently, I think the yeast might be very important, and also the fermentation temperature. There's a very slight fruitiness, and I don't think it's coming from the grain or the hops...

 

[MyQul]

I'd be interested to know how this tastes. I'm too scared to try a bitter yet, as there is so much subtlety in a good pint of Landlord or Harvey's that I think it would be easy to get wrong.

Having drunk quite a bit of Harvey's recently, I think the yeast might be very important, and also the fermentation temperature. There's a very slight fruitiness, and I don't think it's coming from the grain or the hops...

Speak to @mansemasher he bought some Essex yeast. I think it was to put in a Harvey's clone. Not sure how it turned out tbh.

Tried some TT boltmaker on the weekend. Definately on the (MASSIVE) list of beers to have a crack at making

 

[MartinHaworth]

1.pm - 40 celsius. Changed water.

 

[clibit]

You can use Wyeast 1469 West Yorkshire ale yeast in a Landlord, and get a close match, with fruity esters. Not getting an exact match is not a reason not to make a beer, a home made AG often beats a pub pint we even if it's a bit different. You could use other yeasts too, Wyeast 1318, 1968 etc.

 

[MartinHaworth]

gulp, ended up with 14 lts at 1090....time to get to the calculator!

 

[MartinHaworth]

Made it up to 22 litres, measured and adjusted temp to 1044. Looking like 70% efficiency.

While I was waiting for the wort to chill, I cheekily put on a Coopers Cerverza with BE2 - plan to dry hop later.

Will post reflections and learning later on.

 

[Spapro]

I was hoping to do a Landlord clone last weekend but we have had our boiler changed this week and didn't want the plumber working round my precious fermenting brew in the garage so held off.

What yeast did the Landlord clone come with out of interest ?

May get it done this weekend but got quite a lot on - including a local beer festival Saturday afternoon.

Re, the coopers kit I did Coopers Lager and Dry hopped with cascade pellets and it is gorgeous, a really nice pale ale effectively.

Good luck with your brews, hope they turn out well.

 

[ManseMasher]

I'd be interested to know how this tastes. I'm too scared to try a bitter yet, as there is so much subtlety in a good pint of Landlord or Harvey's that I think it would be easy to get wrong.

Having drunk quite a bit of Harvey's recently, I think the yeast might be very important, and also the fermentation temperature. There's a very slight fruitiness, and I don't think it's coming from the grain or the hops...

The yeast I used was Brewlabs Sussex 1 for my Harveys clone. Turned out very good and there was definitely a fruity undertone to it, which is close to any Harveys Best I've had in the past.

 

[clibit]

It comes with S04. Which won't get you very close to Landlord, no dried yeast will. You'll still get a good beer though.

 

[MyQul]

, no dried yeast will.

I agree with you here, I don't think you will get a dried yeast that will match the ester/profile. However I've been eyeing up the west yorkshire yeast for my milds and ordinary bitters and looking at the various dried yeasts I think the closest the OP would get is either Windsor or MJ Dark ale. I say that because they've both got medium attenuation, like Wyeast 1469 (one of the big reasons I'm interested in it for my lower OG beers) and are both supposed to be quite fruity/estery like 1469.

 

[clibit]

Be aware you need to keep the temperature down with 1469. Or the esters get out of control.

 

[MyQul]

Be aware you need to keep the temperature down with 1469. Or the esters get out of control.

That's why I'm not even considering buying it till winter

 

[MartinHaworth]

I was hoping to do a Landlord clone last weekend but we have had our boiler changed this week and didn't want the plumber working round my precious fermenting brew in the garage so held off.

What yeast did the Landlord clone come with out of interest ?

May get it done this weekend but got quite a lot on - including a local beer festival Saturday afternoon.

Re, the coopers kit I did Coopers Lager and Dry hopped with cascade pellets and it is gorgeous, a really nice pale ale effectively.

Good luck with your brews, hope they turn out well.

Bog standard Safale S-04....

(sorry, just seen that I've cross posted - I was going through the thread and didn't see the later replies..)

 

[MartinHaworth]

Bottled 2/8 at 1010. Huge trub at the bottom - about 10cm! Got 35 pints out, and pleased with that. Given the temperatures earlier on in the fermentation I was quite concerned about off flavours, but tasted just fine prior to batch priming.

Will give this one a week before a tester!

Cheers

MArtin

 

[joe 90]

Re: Landlord, definitive recipe

Postby farleyman » Sun May 15, 2011 3:12 pm

This is a multi award winning recipe achieving Silver in a NCB TTLL clone competition.
It is for 23 litrs of beer. It also makes an exellent IPA in 17 litre form.

All liquor should be at Ph 5.4. Temps. are in Fahrenheit.
You will need;
4.5 kilos Golden Promise
112 gms. crystal 120
13 gms. patent black malt, finely crushed.

Mash at 150 deg. for 90 mins.

Sparge to exract 5 galls. @1035

Boil for 90mins. adding hops at;
35 gms fuggles for 60mins.
50 gms. styrians for 60 mins.
10 gms. each styrian and worcester goldings for 15 mins.+ protafloc tab.
Ferment with Fermentis US-05 American ale yeast.

Rack with gelatine and leave for 10 days then bottle or keg.If kegging, the addition of isinglass will give it a real polish.
Flavour comes good after 14 days.

Cheers f

i have this recipe fermenting in the fridge just now will let yous know what its like once i bottle it :

 

[clibit]

Wouldn't the definitive recipe have won gold?! :geek:

 

[Spapro]

I was going to brew a Landlord clone this weekend but have ordered a 'T126' yeast slope from Brewlab - after asking for their recommendation for a TT Landlord yeast.

I won't receive the slope until next week so going to go with a Yorkshire Pale Ale Brew tomorrow and hold off on the TT Landlord clone until next weekend or the one after and try this magic yeast !

 

[joe 90]

Re: Landlord, definitive recipe

Postby farleyman » Sun May 15, 2011 3:12 pm

This is a multi award winning recipe achieving Silver in a NCB TTLL clone competition.
It is for 23 litrs of beer. It also makes an exellent IPA in 17 litre form.

All liquor should be at Ph 5.4. Temps. are in Fahrenheit.
You will need;
4.5 kilos Golden Promise
112 gms. crystal 120
13 gms. patent black malt, finely crushed.

Mash at 150 deg. for 90 mins.

Sparge to exract 5 galls. @1035

Boil for 90mins. adding hops at;
35 gms fuggles for 60mins.
50 gms. styrians for 60 mins.
10 gms. each styrian and worcester goldings for 15 mins.+ protafloc tab.
Ferment with Fermentis US-05 American ale yeast.

Rack with gelatine and leave for 10 days then bottle or keg.If kegging, the addition of isinglass will give it a real polish.
Flavour comes good after 14 days.

Cheers f

i have this recipe fermenting in the fridge just now will let yous know what its like once i bottle it :

well drinking it just now not a bad pint but it lacks the caramel taste so i am going to do the same brew again but boil 8 ounces of molasses into it at the start of the boil and see how that goes :