Boiling lme with hops

[labrewski]

Hi do many people boil hops and lme before throwing into fv I recently done one with a mix of lme and dextrose 50g hops boiled/simmered for bout 30 min then into bucket but this has turned out to be one of the tastiest beers I've made so far is it a fluke ??

 

[cheeseyfeet]

Isn't this what is known as extract brewing?

 

[labrewski]

Sry not sure I only use kits but was thinking kits are just 2 or 3 ingredients so buy those and change things then someone here said years ago they pre hopped lme by boiling so that got me thinking tried it and some serious beer but can it be allways this easy

 

[labrewski]

Isn't this what is known as extract brewing?

Extract needs big pots and other equipment I just had 1.5 lme and 1kg dextrose in an average pot

 

[Sandimas]

Nope, this is extract brewing - pot size doesn't matter. Many people do extract brews in small pots, that's one of the advantages.

Agree that you will make far tastier brews than kits with this method. Did you just throw it all together or did you do any recipe calculations such as OG and bitterness? You'll get an even better beer if you do that, in fact with this method you can emulate many AG recipes by swapping out the base malt for LME/DME.

 

[labrewski]

Just did it without thinking I'm sorry now because it tastes like one of my favourite ipa I buy when not at home threw everything in simmered for about 25 min poured threw a sieve threw some of the sludge in the threw another 50g as dry hop before bottling that's it

 

[labrewski]

Done another batch but only dry hopped with a 100g of same hops and a different yeast to see if there is much difference 1 week in the bottle today cant wait to sample to see what flavour is there

 

[terrym]

https://www.thehomebrewforum.co.uk/threads/a-simple-guide-to-extract-brewing.75501/

 

[Sandimas]

Let us know a couple of extra things, like the volume of the brew in your FV (23L?) and what hop you used, and we can work out what you made Often the experiments are the best, I religiously calculate my recipes but a recent one made with home-grown Cascade, of which I didn't know the bitterness of the hops, turned out the best.
https://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/recipe/calculator

 

[labrewski]

18 litres 25g comet 25g Columbus 1.5 kg lme and 1 kg dextrose in pot then 25g comet 25g Columbus dry hop safale u.s yeast

 

[Sandimas]

It comes out very bitter if you boiled both those hops for 30min full volume (71 IBU) but I'm guessing you used a smallish plan so that would have put it in the 40-50 IBU category, perfect for an IPA. OG 1044, sounds like a nice beer - maybe it was an experiment but a pretty good one, hitting the right figures

 

[labrewski]

I just let it hit boiling point then simmering for last few min

 

[SmallSpacesBrewing]

Nope, this is extract brewing - pot size doesn't matter. Many people do extract brews in small pots, that's one of the advantages.

Agree that you will make far tastier brews than kits with this method. Did you just throw it all together or did you do any recipe calculations such as OG and bitterness? You'll get an even better beer if you do that, in fact with this method you can emulate many AG recipes by swapping out the base malt for LME/DME.

Not entirely true. If you boil in smaller pots with the whole amount of DME or LME you get a thicker mix, making it less reciptible to the hops. Meaning you have to use more of them. I use a 20liter pot and boil 18liters with the amount of hops I need for the recipe. After I add some water up to the 22liters I want. If you use a 10 liter pot then you're gonna either need more hops or you can boil half the LME-DME with hops and add the rest of it after the boil finishes.